Duration

Inline6Merc

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How much duration is too much for a street six? It will have headers, 3bbls all that good stuff. But what would be the right cam for a every day driver six? 264 or 274 or 264/274 or 268/274 so on so on so on......

thanks

Curtis
Inline6Merc
 
Curtis, I need to know is your vehicle an automatic trans C4 or is it a stick shift?? After you supply me with what you have i can give you a ballpark advice on camshaft. If its a C4 with a stock converter the max duration @ .050 would be 264 with a 112 lobe center for the best idle or a 110 lobe center for a more ragged idle in drive. If its a stick shift go with more duration & a 110 lobe center. Remember a camshaft can make a nice street engine miserable. Give a shout back with all you engine specs. That includes what size engine,cylinder head,carburetion, pistons, head gasket, valve size, is the head modified & exhaust system.
Without all the info it is a educated guess. good luck william
 
It is a 1964 200engine with flat top pistons and has a automatic C4. It will have..........

Headers
Electronic Iginiton
Roller Rockers 1.6
3 angle valve job
Back cut the intakes
Port and polish
3 brl setup (Autolite 1100)

With all that what kind of cam should i run? Why can you run more duration with a automatic trany?

Thanks

Curtis
Inline6Merc
 
Curtis, i need what year cylinder head you have ?? If you had a stick shift vehicle you can crank more duration and a different lobe center. If you have a C4 you need to stick in the 264 with .214 degrees @ .050 with a lobe center no lower than 110, if you want a smoother idle use a 112 lobe center. You need to contact mike a fspp www.fordsixparts.com & get the right camshaft for your application. :D william
 
Give you an idea...my 200 with the Aussie, T5. I have a comp cam 260 with 210 at .50 with 108 or 110 between lobes. RUns great, so suspect you can run more. I know the general consensus has been around 270-274 is fine with an auto.

Slade
 
A 1964 head??? There's no way could you ever need a cam bigger than a 260H. You'll actually make more power with a 260H grind than a 270+ grind with that head. In fact, unless you do some serious head work, a 254H grind or even a stock 250 cam might work better for you.
 
I'm running a '66 200 head, C4, Weber 32/36 with the larger valves and a 272 duration. Granted, I am having problems now, but before the rebuild this spring to do all the head work, I was running the 272 with no problem other than a lumpy idle.
 
Howdy Back Curtis and All:

What are the casting numbers on the '64 head? The reason I ask is that these early heads have several inherant shortcomings that cannot be solved by adding larger, modified valves and porting. The C1s and C3s, the most likely casting # on a '64 Fairlane, we've been able to measure have a very small volume intake tract, at about 890 cc. This can be increased slightly, but not significantly. A tri carb set up will help some.

Also, you said you have flat-top pistons. Are they part of a rebuild? A stock '66 200 would have a dished piston. A flat-top piston with a small chamber '64 head would have a too high compression problem. What is your CR goal? What are the chamber sizes?

Cam lift is best determined with input from a flow bench. Most log heads with improved intake and exhaust will peak out at around .400" lift. Again, a tri carb setup may help this, but the intake ports remain a serious limitation. Any more than your head can use is wasted as extra motion, stress and wear and tear on the springs, bearings, valves and seats.

Given the limitations of this head you might want to consider one of the dual pattern cams from Mike at FSPP. The 264D would be my best guess with an auto trans. The longer exhaust duration might help overcome the inefficiencies of the head. Even at that John (Inliner) is right on. This much cam will require major head work to get to it's potential.

You would be doing yourself a favor to start with a later (D7 or later) log head. Along with more intake tract volume you'd get larger valves, hardened seats and a larger, less shrouded chamber.

Your choice.

Adios, David
 
My head is a 1964 200 Comet head. The engine was rebuilt a long long time ago (not by me) and they put flat top pistons in it. I dont know why. What do you think my compresion would be? I wanna keep it in the 9's some where. The head is stock tho, nothing done to it. Im goin to get everything done to it suggested in the Ford Falcon Six Handbook.
 
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