Ford parts manuals

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Any leads on a source (other than E-bay) for Ford parts manuals for 215/223/265 I6ers?Looking for the pre-falcons OHV truck motors.Jim
 
I might have some from back in the 50's.

I'll take a look and get back to you.

Doug
 
If ya do, that would be great!! My current thinking is I have a '63, 223 block. But, the H20 pump doesn't look like a 223, so I'm wondering if I have a 262 head. A manual would really help to sort things out!! Jim
 
I have several original ford master parts manuals for 40-50s trucks. I'll look through them and see if I can find anything that new.
 
What information did you need? It looks like my books are too old and don't have many references to 262s. But I do have a lot of 223 info. The casting number on a 223 head should be: B9AZ 6049-F. The casting number for a 223 block should be: C1AE 6010-C. I have two different water pump casting numbers. The first one is for engines that do not have the fan mounted on water pump: B4C 8501-A. The second is for engines that have the fan mounted on the water pump: B6C 8501-C. Does this info help any? I can post scans of these pages too if you want.
 
O.K. Appreciate the offer to help. Here's what I've got:The carb and manifolds are on the drivers side, distributor pass. side front corner. No "3rd rib" on the block. From this, I'm figuring its a 223 block.However, the h20 pump doesn't look like pictures of ones for sale, for a 223. Truck is a '65, but engine #'s say '63, so I'm figuring is not original. Trying to pin down if they put a 223 with a 262 head. Block # C3Ae-6015AC.
Head #,(stamped on flat on pass.side frnt corner)22505. Timing cover C4TE-6059-B.
T-stat cover 8594A
H2o pump # D 6211 & 6061 (or 1909)
Another, different h20 pump was laying in truck, looks like pics of 223 pump, # is 322 4101. Any idea what I've got. Thx. JIM
 
The catalog I was looking in technically only goes to '56. I think I have a later one that I'll have to dig out. I'm at school right now, will try to get to it soon.
 
there is two pumps that i know of for a 223/262 block one is round 4 bolts used on trucks & maybe on pre 57 cars the pulley is in the center of the pump the other pump used on 57 & later cars moves the pulley to the left & lower it has a plate on back to cover the fens
 
there is 3 pumps on ebay {223 ford water pump} 27005531781 is like the one on my 61 truck 262 engin. 140055037909 is like the one on my 59 car 223. the 262 now a 277 will in go in the 59 and it has a car pump on it now.they inter change.
 
A 65' with a 223, thats different. They stopped putting them in trucks in 64'. Did they do a good job with the installation and how did they mount it?
Charlie
 
Ah, my other catalog only goes to '59. I've never actually worked on an early OHV ford 6. I only have personal experience with flathead 226s. So.... someone else is gonna have to figure this one out. :(
 
Being a milktruck, it was very common, when an engine went down for major repair or rebuild, to pull the engine and put in another one, then repair the engine and put it in the next one. So, the truck is a 65, with, by the block #, a 63 engine.As the engine game out of another Divco, and was done by the dairy mechanic, you can't tell by looking. They did fine on the installation.I'll look at the h20 pumps tomorrow. Did you say the 2 types are interchangeable, on the 223?JIM
 
Oh, and charlie, since you asked, it was mounted the way all the "stock" engines were mounted, A "tit" on each side of the bell housing, and a u-shaped mount, at the front and just above the oilpan.Jim
 
Thanks for all the help, guys. In searching e-bay "262 ford", I'm seeing a lot of parts, Main bearings, rod bearings, gasket sets etc. that are listed as for the 223 or 262, and some for 215, 223, 240 or 262. From that I'm concluding that as Ford increased the size, they kept using as many of the same parts as possible. So, there ain't no easy way! I'm gonna have to either pull a plug, and fill the cylinder and measure the capacity, or take off the valve cover, and remove one of the headbolts, to see if they drilled it out bigger. At some point, in the future, I'll do that and replace some gaskets at the same time. Just hoped I could do it by the numbers, or the looks of the H20 pump. Apperently, No! Thanks again for the help. JIM
 
Jim since your truck was a heavy duty truck, I guess it still had a straight axle front end. I know in 65' pu's F-100 & 250's had side mounted engines and Twin I beam suspension, thats why I curious of how they mounted it.
Charlie
 
Yes, straight axle. And so it is an unusual, but typical for Divco, kind of 3 point mount. A kind of u-shaped bracket wraps around the front of the engine, and bolts to each side of the block, just above the oilpan, and one on each side, back at the bellhousing. The one at the front bolts to a crossmember, and the 2 at the bell housing bolt to the frame.Thx again, JIM
 
Sometimes, old school is best way. Sure is simple, just like the engine, very easy to work on!!!
 
Divco man, unfortunately with an older car (& even many new ones) is that very rarely will you find a vehicle that you can simply "run the numbers" to get parts. A case in point is my '63 falcon. I've got a pretty good idea of the history & whats been done to it. Its almost all original, however, its an early '63 & as a result, several times I've had to order '62 parts... Sigh, its a never ending battle :?
Edwin
 
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