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yodabiri

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This may be a really stupid question but i have to ask before i screw anything up. I have a 6 into 2 header from clifford and i was wondering whether the port divider is really necessary. I was thinking of using a normal exhaust gasket with the orange (i cant remember maybe permatex or something) on both sides. In other words is the port divider truly necessary for the header installation. My other question is regarding the way the exhaust exits. I am planning to run the 6->2 header into an x-pipe and then through turbo mufflers. Is there any way to arrange this setup so that the exhaust exits in front of the rear wheels? And at the same time leaves enough clearance so i can go over speedbumps safely.

Thank you very much in advance!
 
If I understand correctly the port divider is not NECCESARY but It apparently helps alot, I plan on Instaling the pacemaker dual headers and not with a port divider.
 
i had a pacemaker without a port divider and if you are going to do this i recommend cutting the piece of the gasket that goes between ports 3 and 4 cause it will get rid of alot of future exhaust leaks(trust me i know from experience)
 
How are the pacemaker headers without the port divider?

Thanks for the tip I will definitly cut that part out. :D
 
Do a search on exhaust. This has gone around a number of times.

Remember the reason for the x-pipe in the first place. This was designed for the V-8's because of the "Unsynchronizedâ€￾ exhaust pulses that create additional turbulence in the exhaust path. The original idea before the x-pipe was the crossover. This crossover was installed in dual exhaust setups to disrupt the flow at the point of the hot-spot created by this added turbulence. Years ago we use to install our pipe and paint them with white paint. After a quick trip down the freeway and back to the shop, you could see the dark brown spot on each of the two runners of the pipe. It was a simple matter of connecting the two hot spots with the crossover pipe. Come to think of it I have never seen any test results that showed an improvement by installing the crossover.

The x-pipe was developed for the same reason and is also believed to have a scavenging effect due to the exhaust path from each side passing the other open pipe. I haven’t seen any result of testing that proves this actually works either.

The 200 has a full 180 degree firing order. This allows for equally spaced exhaust pulses within the full length of the pipe. Short of normal turbulence that is seen with the flow any material down a pipe, the 180 degree firing order is the best start for any engine to increase the efficiency of the exhaust. I have always promoted the elimination of crossovers in the exhaust pipe out of the dual exhaust headers for the inlines. I would be afraid of actual creating additional turbulence from what would already be evenly spaced exhaust pulses.

Keep it simple, and have fun. Ric.
 
The reason i want to with the x-pipe is from what i have read about the droning sound from the 6's exhaust. I read a couple of posts that said that any type of crossover (be it x or h-pipe) would help lessen the droning sound. Is that kinda true or maybe i should just forget about the crossover?

Thank you!
 
Doesn't the E-Type six have an H-pipe?

I've heard exhausts with and without crossovers - both sounded OK. The port divider needs a perfectly secure fixing. If your idea is to "tack it in" with a MIG, you're better just leaving it out. It will come loose.

Cheers, Adam.
 
That my friend is an oppinon, if your going with a turbo then oviously you need a stock manifold, then if you not going to have a turbo then you could get a couple different ones, it seems though that most aftermarket headers out there for the I6's are dual out, you could always use a Y pipe and make your exhaust back into one though. I personaly will be buying Pacemaker Dual Out Headers if I dont do a turbo. :twisted:
 
I have ran my pacemaker with and with out the port divider. To be honest really couldn't tell any difference. As for leaking exhaust gaskets. It happens. Get the best gasket you can. Some high temp sealer. Install and let cure over night. Then after a few weeks recheck the bolts for torque.
 
I have ran my Clifford dual-out both with and currently without the exhaust divider and I can say that there is clearly no difference - based on the seat of the pants. I don't know if anyone has actually dyno tested this.

However, I will say that even if there were a small increase with the divider I would run without it to avoid all the rattle headaches. Eventually, they all rattle.
 
They indeed do all rattle.

That said, I run a 6 into 2 header and run into 2.125 aluminised pipe which curves towards the drivers side then a pipe runs down either side of the tunnel, through small mufflers and then up and over the axle, along the tank on either side and out through the valance to split tips. They are tucked up very tight so can not be scene from the side at all.

This weekend I am removing the port divider because... IT RATTLES and is driving me crazy.

My question is are the stock manifold gasket and the header gasket the same?(except for the piece that divides between the 3 and 4? Gasket Recommendations?

Thanks Jim Reese
 
If the divider is welded in correctly the first time you will not have a problem with it coming loose.

Seems like all the highline cars, Lexus, BMW & Mercedes all use the X-pipe in their exhausts for performance & exhaust noise.

Do you think they would do this just for looks, i don't think so.
 
As stated above the x pipe was created for V8's that have a off exhaust order, sixes dont have this they are equal in boath sets three ports that the header divides.

Lexus, BMW & Mercedes arent fords they might be different
 
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