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I can only really speak for the TE Cortina stuff here. I used 17x7.5" wheels with 235/45/17 tyres. I bought a set of performance wheels and had them made up to an offset of +26. I can also since had a set of pursuit rims widened to 15X7 which I have fitted with a set of 26"x8.5" (equivalent of a 245/60/15) street slicks onto. I had these made up at an offset of +30 so tha guards had a little bit more clearance. I can still fit my fingers between the tyre and the inner guard on the inside.

On the outside I have pumped the guards out and hammered the lips up flat. I picked up about half an inch or so there. I can easily fit my fingers between the tyres and the guard on the outside.

AU offset wheels will sit a bit too far inwards. They are normally about +35 or even +38 depending on manufacturer. 5 - 8mm doesn;t sound like much but it all counts! You would have to use a 1/4" wheel spacer with the AU rims.

Standard Cortina offset is +38 but the standard offsets set the wheels a fair way inwards and do not fill the guards well. Dragway actually use a +20 offset on their Cortina wheels.

On the rear I used an XR6 four pinion LSD diff with 28 spline axles, which I converted to disk brakes, on the front I used the Hatfield kit with RX7 four spot calipers and my own custom adapter brackets.

My first engine had 300rwkw exactly running 17 psi boost. By my calcs I had around 850Nm (645ft-lbs) of toruqe at the flywheel at 3600 rpm and the diff held together nicely. I had a 3.45 ratio and changed it out for the 3.08 ratio and the 3.45 gears were in perfect condition after a few 1000 k's and the splines weren;t screwed or anything. Note though I have never run the car with street slicks at the drags, this may be a different kettle of fish. The car had perfect traction on the dyno rollers though and everything held together including the T5 five speed box.

A couple of tips. I assume you are turboing the engine to make 300rwkw. If you are, run 3.08 diff gears. If you use a four pinion LSD with 2.92 gears they have to fit the old 75 series gearsets which have smaller bolt holes. If you use a 3.27 or 3.45 diff gear you will get way too much wheelspin and first gear will be over before you can reach the shifter to pick another gear. Auto or manual, 3.08 gears are the go.

Also, if you get an XR6 Done, make sure you get 28 spline axles shortened. They might try to take the easy way out and weld up the 28 tooth spline in the hemispere and re-spline it to 25 spline ao they can use the standard axles. It sounds odd but I had a diff shop recomend this method. I had to tell them the thing was going to make 500hp before they re-considered.

if you give me your email address I might be able to find some pictures for you.
 
OK Mark, my turn for a quessie.

I have on the shelf a 4P LSD out of a Commy. It's basically unused, and I had it retrofitted with the 25 spline shimmable type of cone/side gears. I've also got a Centura open centre with 2.92 gears. Are you saying that the ring gear off my 2.92 set won't readily fit the newer centre? Bummer.
 
I am only going on what the diff shop told me when I had mine done originally. I tool them a Cortina diff housing complete with 2.92 gears and a complete Falcon four pinion LSD disk brake diff.

I said I want the LSD, disk brakes and 28 spline axles all in the Cortina housing.

They asked which ratio I wanted to use and said that if I wanted the 2.92 ratio they had smaller bolts in the old series crownwheel. They said it was no problems for them to weld up the holes in the hemisphere and redrill them for the smaller bolts but I decided to stick with the crownwheel and pinion out of the falcon diff for simplicity sake.

I have a feeling the commodores ran the 75 series crown wheel and pinion because when they did the mods on mine they kept referring to it as a commodore diff and I had to keep telling them it was a cortina. I have heard of quite a few people doing high HP commodores retrofitting the bigger falcon crownwheels.

You could fairly quickly confirm this buy ringing any local diff shop though.

The idea of swapping the output gears was a pretty good one though. These guys were telling me they had to weld and re spline them.
 
Re-read Dynoed 250's posts. He covered the key method of getting whatever Borg Warner 78 diff into what housing. All BTR/BW 78 diffs can interchange, if you get the right bits.

Three key things:-

1) there are 7.625 and 7.7875" crownwheel diameters

2) There are 25 and 28 spline diffs

3) There are rebated pinions without spacers (shouldered shank) and crushable spacer pinions. You can swap between the two if you are able to make a shouldered spacer.

4) There are 2 or 3 carriers which mount the crownwheel. Dynoed250 was saying these are the key component to get if you are swapping. This is why some 2.77:1 diffs from XF's don't fit into Cortina TE, even though they are both BW 78 diffs.

Wreckers over price parted out components to ensure they get a good return on complete diffs, so if you find a BW78 diff of any type, and have storage space, grab it!
 
That sums it up pretty well. I vagueley remember all of those things being mentioned by my diff modding guys.

Definately sounds like a job for a diff shops who have myriads of diffs and bits and pieces lying around everywhere. I figured it wasn't worth the effort scrounging around out of half a dozen diffs for the right bits.

The guys who did my ratio swap for me. Aussie Diffs at the Gold Coast were pretty good. They supplied me a 3.08 78 series gearset in exchange for my 3.45 gearset and only sharged me for their labour $200. It would have cost me more than $200 to go out and get the gearset

It certainly pays to have some background knowledge before you go to the diff shops because they try to tell you it is all really technical etc so they can charge a fortune.

One other diff shop I enquired with was telling me that they had to machine the pinion spacer seat in the diff housing to suit the 78 series arrangement. I rang Aussie diffs and they said the other guys were having a lend of me and they just had to use the right type of spacers etc.
 
MarkZE, you are right onto it. I've put a New Zealand spec VN Commodore 2.0 4 cylinder 3.9:1 BW78 crownwheel and pinion in a Falcon XE 3.3 diff before. Some guys use spacers to work with the componets they have availabe. They guy who does the diff swap is responsible for it. The devils in the details.

Best one that got me was trying to put 2.92:1 XD diff gears in my XE 2.77:1 diff. The ute had the shanked pinion, the coil sprung sedan had the crushable spacer.

Next door neighbour Danny placed a set of 3.7:1 Cortina 4 TE diff gears in his 2.92:1 LSD diffed Charger 770. It was a straight bolt in because it had a factory crush spacer in both diffs.

The Pintara 4.11:1 gears fit any BW/BTR 78 but you've gotta get all the right bits.

Professional help is a must unless you have bits galore to play with.
 
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