Ideas of souping up ford fairmont XF running X-flow 250 EFI

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I really suggest the ACL gaskets. You'll find a kit that suits what you plan. Leakage is often due to incorrect preparation of the mating surfaces, incorrect torquing or thread conditions. You don't want a car that visibly loses oil as this tends to make motorcyclists rather narky...


OK ill give them ACL gaskits a search for sound ok
when me and my dad rebuild the mazda 626 se made sure there was no remaining of the gaskits on the block or head and give it a sand over so no gunk was in the way then got air hose and blew all the shit away from the motor what we sanded off. we used the torquing from the book well i think when we torqued it we put it like 2 to 5 nm over on all bolts. and all bolts were fine no cross threds what i was really hapy about. lol


The oil pressure cutoff switch is sold by Holley among others. You also need a tee and some adaptors to install it (try Earls for these bits if you are in Sydney). When the pressure gets below 7PSI, it kills the motor. Simple, eh?

Ill have a look right into getting on these oil pressure cutoff switches that would help my motor alot lol i guess all i plan to really do in the XF was drive around and when find a mate or show off in another car that smaller them mine*key work SMALLER* ill give him a drag down the road then stop the drag so do you really think that fully nessary to install a oil pressure cut off. Ill still look into it but.
 
It's not necessary, but if for some reason you lose all oil pressure, it will shut down the motor faster than you might from watching a gauge. With the fittings, it'll probably be close to $50-55.

Overtightening a bolt may actually hasten it's loosening. I can't remember exactly why but we went through it at uni. Cameron Milne (XT500) might recall better. The threads in some situations need to be oil free and Loctited, others oiled (and this includes under the head). Plus you often need to let it "relax" for a few hours and do a final torquedown again. Especially on head gaskets.

Rather than drag racing, keep a short cable in the car that can be looped to your towbar. You can create your own parking spot by drag and drop... :wink: The Ford sixes have torque - use it!
 
I don't like to be too much of a grump (although my wife would disagree!), but I am having trouble working out which will run out first - your drivers license or your money! If you lose your license you will get the time (and the money) to fix up the car the way you want it. But, please be careful - there are A LOT of people out there just to willing to take money off people like you and not give much in return - especially speed shops and wreckers! I would suggest more reading of this site (many wise people here) and less reading of certain car modifying magazines - once upon a time I was young too and full of ideas - BUT I was a poor uni student and could not afford much more than a set of 6 spark plugs! Bangs for you Bucks is what you are after - do some research into the 'law of diminishing returns'..... ie spend $500 get 30hp extra, spend $1000 get 35hp extra etc. Maybe just being safe in the knowledge that you are not just another Bogan in a Dunnydoor.

I will now retire for the night with a warm cocoa, my slippers and rug. Now, where did I leave my walking frame??

Kendall.
 
Next to your non-slip bathchair, you grumpy old ****! :P :P :P

Just stirring you! You postulated some conservative theories much more nicely than I did.
 
LMAO

I don't like to be too much of a grump (although my wife would disagree!), but I am having trouble working out which will run out first - your drivers license or your money! If you lose your license you will get the time (and the money) to fix up the car the way you want it. But, please be careful - there are A LOT of people out there just to willing to take money off people like you and not give much in return - especially speed shops and wreckers!

LOL hmm good question well id say money proberly by the time i get it on the road then days after license after lol then ill have towork to get some money wile my car impounded or at home to mod it up a little more lol to lose it again LMAO. I drive like a granny on a sunday lost when there not a mate in around but when there around i thrash the life from my mazda 80km first, 160 second, 200 third and it only a 2.0 little 3 speed fwd mazda LMAO.

It's not necessary, but if for some reason you lose all oil pressure, it will shut down the motor faster than you might from watching a gauge. With the fittings, it'll probably be close to $50-55.
i might actually get a oil pressure switch just for safety of my motor.

Hey addo i found some ALC bearing for my crossflow have a look im going to buy them for my motor in a few days. You think there all OK just check it over before i make a stupid mistake...

Main bearings
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FORD-250-4-1...566267530QQcategoryZ43807QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
Firstly, these are 20 thou under. You will either need to grind your crank to suit, or find another bearing set. It's unlikely if the motor is original, that the crank's been ground.

Secondly, they are actually built for race-type usage. ACL claim they are actually made in a more distorted shape so that when the motor is thrashing away, the bearing is distorted into a more accurately rounded form. Weird, eh?

The backing material is supposed to be stronger than regular bearings, and the wear surface may be marginally tougher. There are some slight changes to oil carrying/holding capacity, too.

For your case, I am reserved about them being right, as you realistically won't be racing the motor all its life. That means they will spend more time at lower RPMs than not, in their distorted shape of manufacture. Which might wear them out faster.

New regular ACL Duraglide bearings are probably about $80-90 at the moment. Maybe a shade cheaper if you've got mates in the biz.
 
Firstly, these are 20 thou under. You will either need to grind your crank to suit, or find another bearing set. It's unlikely if the motor is original, that the crank's been ground.

So how do i grind the crank to suit? i don't know this area of car modding LOL i thought id have to do something like this lol. whihc id proberly just leave it and get diff ALC kit then. I like the idea of they work best when being thrashed cause i like running my motor at Higher RMP for the sound LOL ask my mazda if it could talk LOL From first to second i ride it off tacho lol

if i buy a full rebuild kit do i get all the bearing with it and would it just be better for me to buy a ALC full kit for my crossflow and just rebuild her with that and just put the new cam, injectors, lifters, roll master, gearbox, clutch flywheel and few others

If guys could think of any good idea for me to install on the car for more power or better fuel econemy plz tell LOL thx
 
Crank grinding is a standard service in motor rebuilding. It's done as needed, because the surfaces that rub on your bearing shells, eventually wear over time and are no longer perfectly round, or flat from side to side.

There is supposed to be always a little radius in the corners of the running surface; this is called a "fillet radius" and it helps transfer the stresses evenly through the metal. So if you look at a crank and see these rounded bits next to where the bearing runs, it is not wear but design.

You don't know if a crank needs grinding until it is cleaned and measured with a micrometer at many points. Then it is reground the minimum amount necessary. Typically, the rod bearing surfaces (journals) may get redone at the same time.

I paid $136 for ACL rod bearings, mains and cam bearings a couple of years ago. That may have been trade rates - not sure. The gasket kit is a separate item from the bearing sets; I haven't heard of them being packaged together by the company.

There are some common problems in rebuilds. The motor after machine work needs to be surgically clean, no ifs or buts. To achieve this effectively, every plug needs to be removed from the block and you end up scrubbing it with warm water, dishwashing detergent/sugar soap and engine cleaning brushes to get it spotless. Then you need to rinse and follow up with a light oil on everything to prevent corrosion.

People often fail to clean out the rubbish from the water passages before the block goes in for rebuild. After it's back together, the crud repositions itself in the motor and causes overheating issues.

Every bearing should be checked; boxes and packets are not to be trusted. That means you Plastigage every clearance possible before actual final assembly. Also, if a surface says clean and dry, that means NO OIL FILM. Prepsol can be really handy for degreasing that film off things. Fail to remove this and you run increased risk of spinning a bearing.

Lack of proper attention to oil seals is an issue; this will create some fun later when it ruins a clutch. Note that Permatex #3 is needed for flywheel to crank bolts, and that these bolts are ¼" longer on a manual.

People don't finish hone to match the recommendations of the ring manufacturer, and the bore eats the rings or vice versa. They also fail to determine compression ratios and deck the block appropriately. Or, when it's started, they don't follow the manufacturer's recommendations to break in the rings.

And my biggest gripe - folks who fail to set the motor up as they go. The engine should be ready for the head and valvetrain with the #1 piston at TDC ready to fire. This makes everything else easier.

Other big complaint is not verifying everything before you startup. You need to confirm that ignition is working fully, fuel is working fully, all before the crank turns once! Cranking and cranking just wears the assembly lube off and you might as well have not bothered with the rebuild.

One thing I forgot - a lot of performance cams require a hardened cam gear. Crow supply this and it's about $60. Check with them, when you ask about cams.

More info than you needed! :P
 
lol

wellwhen i rebuild this motor im going to take NO short cuts whats so ever i wnt everything dne right and clean everthing so here not a spec of shit or bad chunks of dry oil on the motor i want the motor to look like ford just build the motor straight from factory im going to clean everthing new hoses for nearly everythingunless it n 95% or BETTER CONDIDTION im going to repaint all my firewal before i put the block back in the car im also thinking about painting th bottem part of the block a yelllow or light colour so i know when oil leaks start and make it easyer to see problem around the motor. Im going to run a new fuel line to the motor with fridgeation shit over it so fuel keep cold intill it hits the motor lol.

Im also going to clean the water pump from any of that shit in there if i have to ill get a wire brush out to get it off but don't want to rub it to hard to wear away the pump walls just enought to remove that grime shit and ill get my radiator flushed or ill get a bigger one. Or people seem to do s they put 2 radiators in the car if there not running a intercooler LOL hate to wait for ya car to warm up on them early work mornings lol 10min pass "Oh No i think ill im going to be late" 20mins pass "OK im just a little late it ok" 30 pass "Im stuffed lol" 35 mins driving to work "why did the car just die??? F^&K im out of fuel darn stage 4 cam and 1000cc injectors :twisted: "
LMAO thats what sound like my problem will be LMAO

I'll have a look into these bearing and get the right ones and whole rebuild kit with all gaskits so i can rebuild her and put the cam injectors in and ill buy new oil for the motor and flush the break lines and power steering, and install my 4 speed single rail gearbox and clutch and extractors and exhaust system etc LOL
I want the car to be running on new fluwids in the motor no same stuff from before she ganna fly and im going to have so much fun with mate over the weekends when we will hire out a track to mess around on just small races around the track and drags etc im going to try all my speeding and burnout off the streets and on a hired track but if on streets on back roads againest some commardor showing off in his little 3.3l 186 or 202 lol Ill make sure before i do them drags i got the car running at peak and healthyest without any problems

so can't wait to be striping the motor to build her up witht he new gear in the motor. I got to remember take it easy in this car because if i work the motor to far i won't know to control it at that much power yet LOL ow i should meantion im only 17 LOL ive got all the money in my bank ready to go into my car and job to get more money if needed HEHEHHE.

thx
 
I don't like to be too much of a grump (really! honest!) but please take care when modifying your car for three more reasons
1) constable plod will leave you alone if the car looks standard inside and out - give them no cheek - and no excuses. (Although my wife has dragged the occasional unmarked cop car to 60 at the lights - big laughs!!)
2) Qld transport LOVE picking on modified cars - fair or not! So, it is great fun to disappoint them by giving them NO excuses to defect your car.
3) Insurance companies hate insuring young blokes with modified cars - keep you license clean and your car STANDARD LOOKING and they will give you less grief - but be honest with them. This will give you (if you behave yourself) a reasonable insurance rating that will help you in the future when you spend big bucks on dearer cars (eg XR6 turbo). Please make sure you have a minimum of 'bomb insurance' (third party property -this is NOT included in your rego!!!!!). It will be dear but it beats paying for a mistake for the rest of your life financially.

Grump Grump
Gripe Whinge

Kendall.
 
Hey dosen't matter to have a shit at me im a teen it will be natural nag from all people who are on there opens lol

All i want to do to the car is mate the motor fun and clean up the car to look like a very clean stock car but with a nice sterio instide the acr to lissen to as well but either from that ill keep everthing normal even sterring wheel, seats, dash but i will change the speedo/tacho to the fairlane/fairmont digital one cause there look nicers then the analog ones.
Im going to get 3rd party fire and theft with a modifi car insurance company cause it very low modded it will be cheaper that a fully modded and would make me look like a small fri on the modder list in insurance


All i want a Nice looking XF with the power when i want it on them hired drag track on a back dtreet away from homes, cars and people so only me and them for safety of others.

and when i drive around ill be running gas so i won't have my power there so ill have to pull over and flick to fuel unless i got a duel throtle body but i don't so by the time i flick over there gone so basily id have to arange the race or catch them at light or where they stop.

But why would i lie to the insurance company cause if i crash and i said my cam was 30/70 but it is 40/80 they won't pay from the acedent or if my car got stolen they would only pay out for the 30/70 or wouldn't payout cause it wrong car details..

so do everthing right and ill be all fine and good
 
Im involved in the insurence game on the Damaged car level and its evil......nobody wins, at least not often Steve
 
Im involved in the insurence game on the Damaged car level and its evil......nobody wins, at least not often Steve

yer that true you never win on damage car claims you might as well claim the shell and take the motor out for your next car and just give it a rebuild before you chuck it on the road incase of crack crank or something damaged


I think all i might do to the car is Clean any dints out of the car and bog all problems then give her a repaint, new tyres, extractors, exhaust system 2.5 inch, 40/80 cam, 560cc injectors, sport disribituter, sport spark plug leads, and bosh super 4 plugs, 4 speed single rail T4 gearbox, V8 racing clutch, racing flywheel, new motor oil, power sterring fluid, brake fluid, digital dash then finaly drop the LPG back in and wire back up and also maybe a better diff LSD.

I think that wat ill do for the time bean then ill bore it out and put larger injectors like 1000cc and cam and pistons, etc
 
Today i went down to coventry auto's and pick up some new gaskits for my mazda 626 with a blue smoke about 10m behind it when i accelerate and i just drive LOL

well when i was there i asked them about a full rebuild kit for the motor and they said about $484 for a full kit that included
gaskits
bearings
pistons
conrids
valves
and other stuff

How tht for price? i think in included all the gaskits for EFI unleaded too also
 
That's cheap to the point where it flashes a red light.

Gasket kit - Genuine ACL will be close to $100. You need to know the exact year of the motor to get the correct kit.

Performance pistons and rings - ACL - will be about $450. Bearings we covered last time.

Timing set - Rollmaster or JP - will be about $125.

Crow cam and dizzy gear will run you about $350. Valve springs I can't comment, nor roller rockers.

Remember that most people will want to sell you either what they've got (if a wrecker) or what they make good no-hassle money on (if a retailer). The margins on some of these kits are better than standard parts; that's to their advantage but usually makes no difference to your cost.

There are some good second string brand parts but some shockers, too. You really need to see a product if you don't know it's pedigree. Some are importer's brands - like QH, and one QH part can be grouse, while another is "C Minus" in quality.

Cheers, Adam.
 
LMAO
im going to pull down the block this weekend and clean it up all nice i think all i will do is get good bearings for all the car then get diff brand decent brand gaskit kit with the piston rings etc then ill build her up and over time improve it just get good qualerty rings and bearings seem good and average qualerty gaskit because ill proberly striping the motor down all the time for new pistons and get bored out and all that stuff

and ill just chuck next size injectors in with a mild cam with extractors and exhaust system for a few weeks to get the hang of the car then progress.

ive only been driving a mazda 626 a lowsy 4 cylinder and im going to jump into a super XF ill kill my self in 5 mins so ill lighly mod the car for now. Ill get back to about the pistons and motor condition on the weekend with pic's maybe
 
OK.. slow down a minute..... you seem to be getting carried away a little..
You need to ask youre self some questions before you startching bits and pieces. The things that worrie me the most are.

1. You say u want a differnt throttle body (no point) Im running one XF one on my efi cortina and its making 180 RWKw or 240 hp at the wheels.

2. Stock injectors are fine if you are running stock ecu. If there the same as later ea-EL ones then there good for 150 ish rwkw before there maxed out as far as d/c, i have a feeling they can go higher.

3. if you want serious power, Turf the Stock EFI system in the bin. Keep the manifold. Buy an after market ecu like micro tek, inject, ems, Of course depending on budget. THe microtek is very good value at around 1250 with hand controler. Get it wired in by a pro, unless u have experiance at it youre self you dont want to melt a new ecu.

4. If youre not going ultra wild with the build, the factory ?EFI system can be retained, you can play with adjustable fuel pressure regs, and adjusting the tension on the air flow meter spring, to adjust the fuel delivery/ load requirements. Its not usually a good idea to run even mild/hot cams with the ford ecu as idle issues reasult.
 
Dynoed250 thats expensive stuff your talking about. Ford thunder mighten realise how much that list of his is going to cost him. :shock:
Mikrotek computer for $1200. Just to control fuel and ignition :shock:
Obviously if your going efi and all out you'd consider one. Is Haltek anymore expensive and a better product? Im sticking to carbies for the time being. Thanks Steve
 
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