INDUCTION IDEAS

whats better a 6 or 8?

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hasa68mustang

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I have a 68 mustang 200, and was wanting to do some kind of ram air, or something.I thought that a pretty cool interesting thing, is the ram air like on the new mach 1's. A previous post I did I got alot of responses about a cowl induction idea. Well here you go inliners, share your induction ideas to fellow inliners!
 
:( :( I feel dirty, admittedly, I voted that the eight is better....BUT I only voted that way for performance reasons. I have a 200 ci in a 67 Mustang Coupe, I love the engine. Its durable, its simple (relatively), and there is a LOT more room for R&D for it. In regards to performance though, and as I much as I hate to admit it, a 302 with moderate tweaks will almost always beat out a highly modified 200ci (excluding the use of a turbocharger, but then again the typical 302 with a supercharger will still definitely win). In the end I think its important to evaluate the engine, whatever youre working on, in the context of what youre trying to do. Ive seen some of the stuff MustangGeezer has done (for example), and I cant even begin to explain how amazingly cool his stuff is and how much it humbles me, and Id respect the work he put forth into his six over the stereotypical 302 any day of the week, because his work is very original, its obvious he didnt just fork over 3 Grand to buy prepackaged bolt on upgrades. Basically, I just think the poll is too general, on the quarter, I think its obvious that a 302 would PROBABLY win over a 200. But the people who work on 200s, dont always nor necessarily do it because they want to compete with the "other" classic Mustang crowd.
 
67Pony":5qcwu9uz said:
:( :( I feel dirty, admittedly, I voted that the eight is better....BUT I only voted that way for performance reasons. I have a 200 ci in a 67 Mustang Coupe, I love the engine. Its durable, its simple (relatively), and there is a LOT more room for R&D for it. In regards to performance though, and as I much as I hate to admit it, a 302 with moderate tweaks will almost always beat out a highly modified 200ci (excluding the use of a turbocharger, but then again the typical 302 with a supercharger will still definitely win). In the end I think its important to evaluate the engine, whatever youre working on, in the context of what youre trying to do. Ive seen some of the stuff MustangGeezer has done (for example), and I cant even begin to explain how amazingly cool his stuff is and how much it humbles me, and Id respect the work he put forth into his six over the stereotypical 302 any day of the week, because his work is very original, its obvious he didnt just fork over 3 Grand to buy prepackaged bolt on upgrades. Basically, I just think the poll is too general, on the quarter, I think its obvious that a 302 would PROBABLY win over a 200. But the people who work on 200s, dont always nor necessarily do it because they want to compete with the "other" classic Mustang crowd.

Not to make you feel any worse, but actually in some cases, even an only slightly modified 302 would whip up on a turbo 200, can you tell I can't wait to get my 302!

Sorry
 
No having to be sorry for loving the old House O' Windsor!

Great engine, great sound, great performance. With engines as good as that I don't think I'd ever want to say one was better.

I love sixes, always have, always will do.
 
I love my 6's and I have smoked many a V8 on the 1/4 and the freeway
the next best thing to a 6 is a big bad ported 13B rotary
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But V8's are good for towing your race car around :wink:
 
It all depends on what you want the car to do, and what you will be satisfied with in the long run.

I you want to keep the car some what original and like the uniqueness of the six then be all means try tweaking it a bit. If you want to go fast and be able to find performance parts for a reasonable price then a 302/351 is definately the way to go. A complete running 5.0 out of a latemodel will cost about $600 and will put down 185-195 hp to the rear wheels stock. For comparison, an OZ headed I6 with long tube headers, roller rockers, necessary machine work, rebuild kit, etc will cost in the neighborhood of $2000-$3000 and you still can't buy a real performance distributer or forged pistons



Note, to take full advantage of any major engine mods, the rest of the car including supsension, brakes, and driveline must be upgraded.
 
As with all things, it depends on what you're using it for.

Racecar- V8, although a high boost 6 on race gas could be a surprise in a spec-class Road Racer. In a class with HP vs. vehicle weight limits to level the playing field, the weight advantage of a 6 keeping weight off the nose ofthe car could be useful. My specific example is the American Iron series, with 9lbs per HP and 9.5 lbs per ft-lb of torque. Nobody that I know of has tried it, but I've heard a couple people making noise about running a 2.3 SVO Mustang. Coule be interesting to watch. :) It a pipe dream of mine to be the first Turbo 6 in the AI West. Probably never happen- too much effort to get an old Pony to race trim. A '79-81 Fox body Mustang, however.... hmmmmm..... *stratches chin*

Mildly built street car- toss up. Less money to get a 185-200 HP (stock) V8, but with a stock Oz head, a bit of porting, and headers, a 160 HP I6 still can go, and gets better mileage. And don't forget the WTF factor for more radical Sixes at the shows.

Daily Driver- 6 all the way. Lower operating costs on gas and insurance. Also less likely to get in trouble with a heavy right foot. Not as fun, but effective from point A to point B. Assuming it's stock gear (like mine), keeping a 6 is cheaper than swapping an 8.

--mikey
 
If you have already decided on installing a 302 in six months or a year, I would put my money into upgrading suspension, brakes, and fuel delivery. Those are things you will need to have done before the v8 will run.

These upgrades will make the car more fun, whether or not you go 8 or 6.
 
8) having both i can tell you that both are fun to drive, but i have not yet decided if i am going to keep the six on my new fairmont, or swap to a bent 8 motor yet. likely i will stay with the six as it is a fun car to drive with the six.
 
The six is reliable, easier to work on, and cheaper to operate. It gives the car better balance, and has no trouble cruising at 80+ MPH. Did I mention cheaper to operate? :wink:
 
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