Non loado distributor pre duraspark

[rommaster2]

I was wondering what year vehicle i would look up in order to get a points style distributor for my 200 that is not a loado.

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDeta ... 18&PTSet=A

This is the listing for a 68 mustang, now it doesnt appear to have springs in the picture but the advance is different then the one on my loado.

Yes i know that the duraspark is a good ignition system. Just i don't want to worry about the wiring and this would be a drop in and pertronix upgrade which would give me the basics of the duraspark and better advance with fairly drop in ease. I am looking at this because i want to switch over to a two barrel with adaptor.

 

[CoupeBoy]

Any '68-73 (I think '74 was the first year for Duraspark 1) should work for you.

-ron

 

[fordconvert]

I have not done the pertronix on the fords but the ones I have done and reading others accounts on the fords I dont know that I would say its easier than a DS conversion. You still have extra wires to deal with. I have also read about people having issues getting the gaps correct, seems like one size does not quite fit all.

Another option if you were thinking about performance stuff anyway is run something like an MSD 6 off the points. You dont even need the petronix for that. I am running one in my boat and have had to clean the points a couple of times but I think it may be due to poor quality parts because others have not had an issue. All it takes is a piece of paper to get it working again. Always used standard blue streak points before this set so I think I will try another blue streak set before I change anything else. The MSD really helps smooth out the idle and seems to have a stronger smoother tip in.

 

[BIGREDRASA]

The DS II with GM Module is not difficult at all. There are 3 wires that connect to the coil & dizzy. One to a ground, which can be the Black wire on the DS II connector. The only other issue is bypassing the pink Ballast Resistor wire, and that's pretty straightforward. You then have much newer parts. The cost, compared to a Pertronix, is a wash.

 

[rommaster2]

ah dang i accidentally posted in the wrong board, stupid 2am posts .

IDK man, you guys all say its not too difficult but the sticky link is down and everywhere i look i just see a wiring diagram which the problem for me is it baffles me since nowhere on the car really looks like that .

The reason it seems harder to wire in is because well its got that wierd connector and since i am not planning on doing any junkyard scrounging to find the wiring harness to splice in (which negates the purpose of new parts ) that adds to some complication of finding the right connectors.

Either way i wasn't planning on using old parts, i can get either distributor new for about the same price and then i would have to buy either the pertronix module or get all the modules and cap and rotor and kit for the duraspark.

 

[fordconvert]

With the DS conversion you can buy the connectors, napa lists them on their site which then gives you bare wires or you can cut the connector off which again gives you bare wires which is what the pertronix will have so again its a wash either way you have some connector or bare wire issues to deal with and if that is what you are afraid of you are going to have to deal with it either way. I went with the DS2 because of how common all the key parts are. Dang near any module GM or ford will work as do most of the Hi Po 'boxes'. Every parts store should have something on the shelf that will work, no mail order or from the wharehouse waiting around. I live in a big city and have a lot of junk in my garage and yard. If you live out in the country and dont have piles of junk and you are used to waiting you are back to the wash again.

Do you have long term plans or dreams beyond the carb upgrade? I ask because maybe that would help make the decision now.

On your original question about the springs I believe they are under the plate that holds the points so you cant really see them on an assembled distributor. The GM HEI's are one I can think of where the weights are just under the rotor. The rest including the DS2 are under a plate IIRC.

 

[rommaster2]

as of right now no big long term plans involving alot of power.

Actually i have installed pertronix before and they are quite simple to install .

Perhaps i'm missing something with the installation of the duraspark, like i said the link in the sticky is down and google does not seem to have directions for a six cylinder conversion (though quite a few people convert to it). Cost is fairly similar so if i could figure out how to do duraspark i know its a great choice, the task just seems kind of large at hand.

 

[Bobscoupe]

If you want to use the petronix there's nothing wrong with that. A 1968 to 1973 dizzy is what you want as someone has said. I would get a hotter coil too, gap the plugs out and roll.

They both basically do the same thing the petronix may not be as durable just carry some points around with ya.

Have fun,

Bob

 

[BIGREDRASA]

I bought a rebuilt DS II for $40 (no core charge) and a new GM HEI module for $20 (both on Ebay). That's about the cost of a Pertronix I.

Here's the wiring for the module (Ignore the shape):

The wires are simply cut to length, and bayonet terminals crimped on. I simply slipped the three female bayonet terminals onto the three males inside the DS II connector. I may fill it with finger caulk one of these days. The wires to Terminals B & C get one bayonet and one eyelet cripmed on. The bayonets go to the module, the eyelets to the coil. The remaining wire is spliced in instead of the pink Ballast Resistor.

Here's the module mounted on a heatsink:

 

[fordconvert]

I simply slipped the three female bayonet terminals onto the three males inside the DS II connector. I may fill it with finger caulk one of these days.

I have been saying the same thing for over 2 years now. Never heard of them being called 'bayonet'. Usually .250" or .187" quick connect, female in this case.

 

[rommaster2]

hmm so thats how you guys did that, i will confer with my friend who is more electrically inclined then that will make my decision.