All Small Six Powermaster PowerMax starters have 12 clock positions.

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Powermaster PowerMax starters have 12 clock positions.
All Powermaster starters come with their dyno-tested proof of performance guarantee. Made in USA.
Powermaster 19103 PowerMAX Starter, Hitachi, Chrome, Ford $219.99
2 bolt
160 ft./lb. Torque
4.4-1 Gear Reduction
2 Mounting Holes
3/4in. Offset
Automatic and Manual 157-tooth/164-tooth (SB F0RD)
7.44 lbs
Ford 200ci Inline Six
Ford 221ci Small Block V8
Ford 240ci Inline Six
Ford 250ci Inline Six
Ford 255ci Small Block V8
Ford 260ci Small Block V8
Ford 289ci Small Block V8
Ford 3.8ci V6
Ford 300ci Inline Six
Ford 302ci Small Block V8
Ford 351C ci Small Block V8
Ford 351Cci Small Block V8
Ford 351Mci Small Block V8
Ford 4.2ci V6
Ford Boss 351 ci Small Block V8

Powermaster 19103 PowerMAX Starter, Hitachi, Chrome, Ford

4.4:1 gear reduction. Recommended for 10 to 1 compression engines. Clears most headers. Works with most oversized kickout oil pans. Permanent magnet for high efficiency. PowerMax Starter Ford SB 160 ft./lb. Torque 4.4-1 Gear Reduction 2 Mounting Holes 3/4in. Offset Rated 1.2 kw Chrome

www.speedwaymotors.com

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Powermaster 9103 PowerMax Starter $157.99
2 BOLT
6.1:1 gear reduction ratio and produces 160 ft. lbs. of torque
Fits Small Block Ford applications w/ 157T manual transmissions and 157/164T automatic transmission
4.08"starter registry hole and an adjustable mounting block
It is recommended for 10:1 compression ratio and weighs only 7.44 lbs.

Powermaster 9103 PowerMax Starter, Small Block Ford, 157 Tooth

This lightweight high-torque gear reduction starter clears all headers and oil pans where original equipment starters won't. The PowerMax starter is a great choice for the everyday driver that has stock compression and timing. Starter works with most oversized kickout oil pans. Features 160 ft...

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Powermaster 9106 PowerMAX Plus Starter, Ford FE, Natural $168.99
3 bolt
160 Ft/Lbs Torque
6:1 Gear Reduction
1.4 kW
1.7 HP
Natural Finish
Fits: 1963.5/1965-Up Ford FE, 184 tooth

Powermaster 9106 PowerMAX Plus Starter, Ford FE, Natural

Powermaster PowerMAX Plus starters are rated up to 11:1 compression with a 6:1 gear reduction and up to 1.7HP, producing 160 Ft/Lbs of cranking torque. All Powermaster starters come with their dyno-tested proof of performance guarantee. Made in USA. Powermaster 9106 PowerMAX Plus starter PSL100...

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[chad]

'stickie'?
(cept 4 me, the broke boy-$)

 

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3/4" offset
Starter has a 3/4 in. offset.
This replaces OEM starters with a 'nose' that extends 2-3/8 inches past the mounting surface.
3/8" offset
Starter has a 3/8 in. offset.
This replaces OEM starters with a 'nose' that extends 2 inches past the mounting surface.

"164 or 157 tooth" when ordering a starter refers to the starter depth not the tooth spacing as Ford starters use the same tooth spacing.
If the wrong depth starter is installed:
The starter will be continuously engaged with the
flywheel, and will destroy the starter as soon as the engine
starts or the teeth will not engage the flywheel
ring, or if it does engage it will only catch the very end of the
teeth and cause damage to the flywheel.

 

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Speedway Motors, mini starters showing the correct installed depth.
Speedway refers to the starter depth as "Manual" or "Auto" which I believe can lead to buying the wrong starter.
Speedway Motors does have a good PDF file "FORD STARTER / FLYWHEEL TECH TIPS" that I Snipped the photos from.

https://static.speedwaymotors.com/images/pdf/91067433.pdf

 

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The 3/4" depth starter with smaller diameter block plate hole could be improperly installed in the larger diameter block plate of the 3/8" depth starter.

 

[chad]

yup, been lookin @ ur earlier post of this (post #5) graphic.

Forgotten tooth count (it's close to 5 yrs ago) DO remember the 164/157 count search hassel. Think I gota 300/4.9 FW.

Will put it together w/#3 (measuring snout extension). I think I need the shims tho (typical mis-engagement sound). I was surprised @ how thin they were, but the sound is also minor. I just need to do something so I dont forget and chew it all up, excited its running after 7, 8 yrs down...

 

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yup, been lookin @ ur earlier post of this (post #5) graphic.

Forgotten tooth count (it's close to 5 yrs ago) DO remember the 164/157 count search hassel. Think I gota 300/4.9 FW.

Will put it together w/#3 (measuring snout extension). I think I need the shims tho (typical mis-engagement sound). I was surprised @ how thin they were, but the sound is also minor. I just need to do something so I dont forget and chew it all up, excited its running after 7, 8 yrs down...

Make sure that you have the correct depth starter. The 3/4" depth starter with a smaller registry hole will bolt on to an engine with a block plate with a larger registry hole which uses a 3/8" depth starter. In this case you may ruin the ring gear and or starter as soon as you start it.. Don't worry about the tooth count.

 

[chad]

"...Don't worry about the tooth count...."
o0OPs, right, U said that...
Thnxs 4 ur help. AND all the way acc the country too.
Never thought a 3K trip for assistance would B so easy !

 

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The below photo shows the same tooth count used on 2 different depth starters.
If you buy a 164 tooth you could get either a 3/8" depth of a 3/4" depth starter.
Measuring the starter registry hole would be the easiest way to determine which depth starter to buy.
Using tooth count only to pick out a starter could lead to installing the 3/4" depth starter in the 3/8' depth starter hole which could destroy the starter and or the ring gear. Asking for a manual or automatic starter can also lead to the same problems.

 

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[chad]

nonea mine have a 'ring gear'. All (3 FW) are solid 'cut from the outer edge' of the FW ('s solid 1 pice) body, not bolt on I believe (except the 1 flex plate #4). Gotta measure BP hole. The ol starter may have not been used for motor break-in (or anything w/this 250. That's the trouble w/a l o n g , slo restoration (and an ol brain). Will look anyway ("oe snout extending 2 3/8th past mount surface = 3/4 inch between FW & Block Plate. Past 2 inches = 3/8th between").

 

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Try spelling out what you mean in complete sentences with no slang or abbreviations.
Most of the time I don't know what you are trying to say.
What does "mine" mean?
None of what have a ring gear?
I would guess that your flywheel or whatever has teeth on it the could be ruined by installing the wrong starter.
Does your vehicle (Bronco) run?
I driven my old 200 powered six car for 30 years with no down time except when I installed a newer 200 a couples year ago.
This is my only car so I immediately fix it if anything goes wrong with it which is very rarely.

 

[chad]

"...nonea mine have a 'ring gear'. All (3 FW) are solid 'cut from the outer edge' of the FW('s solid 1 pice) body, not bolt on I believe (except the 1 flex plate #4)...."
translation here means the FW is a solid ingot of metal. No bolt-on ring gear (a minor point).

'...has teeth on it the could be ruined..."
yes, indeed, thnx 4 your concern.

The vehicle does run. Many know my whole story here, won;t repeat beside a 40 yr woods income, sno plow during the 'off season' & DD a bit/lumber delivery locally by trailer till the Great Recession & restoration to sig below. Some more "stuff" on a build thread. Thnx for your interest~

 

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Every business needs a leader with great communication skills. I suspect that fordsix.com is a business or a front for another business that sells ford six parts. Basic communication skills are not hard. Spell out what you mean. Don't take it for granted that someone knows what you are talking about. Every one that comes here is a potential customer. Using with your own lingo with a limited use of the alphabet is a big mistake. Your lack of communication skills is one reason not to pay to support fordsix.com.

 

[chad]

sorry 4 da suspicions.
alsp
welcome to my learning disabilities (4a dem), hand arthritis, poor key bd skills and excitement of the 6 ThriftPower (any i6 or i8) motors. If that's all/part (of post #14) meant for me. No business front here (see independent 2 or 3 vendors "FSP Vendors) no deep business conspiracy here. Guys sharin what thay know. -OR- if me...asking what they don't. A surprisingly low key site (not somea da egos I see on other sites, flamers, one subject promoters, etc, etc). Thanks for the comments. Lets continue it over on "Cafe" or similar forum designed for it (gasoline alley)?