replace 144 with 200?

[Anonymous]

Hello all,
I have a 144 in the Willys right now and have found a running 200
out of a 66 Falcon....would this be a drop in upgrade?
Right now i have to put the transfer case into low range to climb
a steep street. I keep thinking i may be the victim of road rage if i don't find more tourqe....

Let me know all of your opinions...

thanks...
Tom
Morningstar7@worldnet.att.net
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[xzerokidx]

Yes

 

[Anonymous]

Cool thanks...

 

[jamyers]

Oh, yeah. It'll drop right in, the blocks are externally the same except for the number of freeze plugs.

Doublecheck the year of the 200, though - it wouldn't be unusual to have had a later block swapped into the '66. But as long as the starter is mounted up above the oilpan, you should be good to GO.

 

[Lazy JW]

The 200 will work perfectly. Your 144 must be pretty tired, the Willys probably had a 134 inch F-Head that wouldn't outpull a good 144. You'll like the 200 better though.
Have fun,
Joe

 

[xctasy]

Whats your 144 like? Interested in putting it in a big pine box and sending it to a southern pacific place called New Zealand?



Dean

 

[Anonymous]

Hi,
If i didn't need the 144 as a spare, id be happy to get it to the land down under, sorry. I will be on the lookout for one for you though.
Tom...

 

[Anonymous]

Oh by the way, how is New Zealand these days?
Has been some time since talking to anyone down there.
I am an amateur radio operator and used to catch up quite a bit.
The radio bands have been quite inactive with the current solar conditions.
Tom....

 

[xctasy]

It's an okay little island! We are very, very small minded, and the press is fickle and the politicians have been loving it since Rob Muldoon and David Lange died. Economy wise, its doing okay. Our country is still working feaverishly on free trade deals with China and the USA, and Brazil and Argentina. Its currently being screwed over royally by signing the Kyoto Protocol, its billions in the red over carbon credits.

Good exports have been our wines, Scott Dixon, AVESCO Holden driver Greg Murphy, Lucy Lawless and Keisha Castle-Hughes. PM Helen Clark is a most intelligent politician who I don't agree with, but admire intensely.


The people are still so funny. I love my countrymen, not because they are as broad minded and as friendly as Americans, but because when they talk to 'foreigners', they learn so much more about themselves! I love it when they think thay are so smart. Yesterday, President Bush made a laughing remark at Kiwi TV3 press member Duncan Garner, and he was wearing a bold pinstripe suit which was really awesome. The dude is now famous, yet the poor Kiwi guy doesn't realise that Americans love table talk, and Duncan had a golden opportunity to have 5 seconds on limelight with Uncle Sam and do a slaes job on his suit. Never mind, were still a little bit too humble for the limelight!

See http://redconfectionery.blogspot.com/

TV 3' Political Editor and my favourite, Duncan Garner, has had his suit complimented by President Bush. While trying to get Bush to answer a question, Bush deflected this by commenting on Garner's snappy dress sense.
It appears that Garner's suit was so memorable to the President that he instructed the American Press to take a page out of Garner's book and start to dress sensibly... maybe something the President himself could do - seriously those boots with his suit did not go.
For those interested Duncan Garner's Suit was purchased from FARRYS on Lambton Quay, the suit is made by Cambridge (an Auckland company), with the fabric imported from Italy and the wool is either NZ or Australian.

My best mate is a Ham Radio buff, Alan Wilden from Dunedin. He does Short wave, and is right into it.

 

[jamyers]

...the Willys probably had a 134 inch F-Head that wouldn't outpull a good 144....

Gag, that was one awful combination of the worst part of all worlds...and I coulda gone all week without being reminded of that trainwreck of an engine. gurghghghhh......... "couldn't pull a greasy string out of a cat's azz" was the kindest thing I ever heard about that engine.

 

[Anonymous]

Well..hmm.....
I have to say it doesn't have the torque of the 134, but it does well around town on flat roads and will spin all four wheels in the dirt climbing a dirt road. It also gets great gas milage.

But the 134 and 144 also would not do as well with the overdrive i am using.

But i do have to say the engine does have its faults as im sure you all know.

I have found a 200 out of a 66' falcon, the car had one owner , and the current owners will be putting a 351 in it. I think his choice is a mistake
as V8 fever is (finally) waining, and alot of people are looking for original condition as well as gas milage. I know i had alot of trouble selling a 79 ford bronco a few years ago just because it had a 460 in it.

I know some folks would disagree with my V8 oppinion, but i just
don't see the V8 appeal anymore....

 

[XFlow_Fairlane]

X,

if you are looking for a 4 main motor I have a 170 I would let you have for free if you were going to pay shipping on it. runs like a top and has a recently rebuilt head on it and a spare steel head gasket I can toss in.

 

[xctasy]

I'm in!

I'll get back to you.

(As well as six other things, Im working on Project XEJIMA at the moment, where you shove a :USA: [Ford] engine on

[read Toyota Corona/Mark II] soil. I have a deap respect for Yank iron and Japanese engineering!

All our 200./250 engines after 1966 have a very big bellhousing which holds up to a 9.5"clutch, via a 160 teeth flywheel. It fairly well stops any prospect of putting an Aussie I6 in an earlier 1977 to 1983 Japanese Toyota rear drive import.

Your 2.77 blocks are nice and trim, with a very small 132 or later (3.03) 136 teeth flywheel. With an alloy head, any of your pre 1980 high mount blocks are the lightest and most efficient engine in terms of size around. The don't have a huge OHC cam chain, no nasty tall cam covers, no 2" extra hanging over the stern like every L28 or Toyota six.

I'm fitting a I6 to my Toyota Corona, and kitted out like Jacks 200 X-flow, the I6 will be lighter than the 18R 2 litre that was standard, and if its 170 cubes rather than 144, its a win! I'm still looking at Jacks 200 four bolt block as well!

Meantime, I'll research one of Jack Collins importing engines posts, and if you could please help out with a 'rough' estimate to get it to the nearest sea board. Post 911, its easier getting US stuff out of the US than importing!

Second option to help out is a 5 year working realtionship I have importing Chevy Cross Fire Intakes, AOD gearboxes and Rochestor and Holley carbs via Charton Auto Imports in Gore, South Island, NZ, so I'll attempt to see if they will pick it up).

 

[Anonymous]

Oh thanks for the engine offer,
I have this 200 to work with now.
Hey, why would the starter location be a problem?