The subject of Carbs..

[Anonymous]

I was hoping someone here could tell me, what are the names and numbers (i guess) of some larger hole single barrel carbs. I have a 144 with a single barrel to fit but I have read about people having much better luck with one for like a 170 or something like that with a larger hole or jet, somethings bigger i know. Anyway its so confusing looking at and deciding what type to get to fit and work well...Help please, Jake

 

[Anonymous]

what kinda car is it? do you have many modifcations? More info please and we would be glad ot help

c

 

[falcon fanatic]

The default cheap and cheerful solution seems to be to install a rebuilt holley/weber and cheapo adapter from a company called Langdon's stovebolt. Carb is like $65 and adaptor is about $15.

Some creativity is required to make the throttle work and there are many examples of different solutions viewable by doing a search on this website.

 

[Anonymous]

I've had very little luck finding the large venturi 1100 for a 200, so I just picked up a remanufactured carter YF for a 1970 maverick. Unlike someone else on this forum who ordered the same carb but got one with the wide bolt pattern, mine has the small bolt pattern (same as my 170 did) and the bigger bore. You could get one and bore out your 1.5 in adaptor to make it work. The carb was about $105- I did not have time to locate a used one and rebuild it.

I also got the carter has I've had 1100's for years and never been happy with them- hesitations, hard starting/flooding when warm, and accel. pump drying out and not working. The carter look's much simpler- we'll see how it works. GOT_FORD has two yf's for sale- not sure what forums he posts in or how to find him, though. Just be sure the bolt pattern is the same as yours. The carter will NOT work with your stock air cleaner- there's a thread going about that right now called 'aftermarket chrome air cleaners"

Sedanman

 

[Anonymous]

You could also try your luck with the Holley 1946 from the Fairmont/Zephyr. Mine has been a really good carb, smooth idle, no flat spots, easy as heck to tune.

I agree w/Sedanman, the YF is a very good carb. I had one on my Maverick, and it gave me no hassles whatsoever.

 

[Anonymous]

thanks for all the replies. i have a 62 chero and it has no modifacations to it. i would like to later but i need the money..grin lifes story i guess. anyway i was just wanting something so i can drive it without worring about it messin up on me or leaving me standed.....thanks again, jake

 

[Anonymous]

Jake,

If you want bolt on improvement without adaptors or linkage changes, go to your parts store and order an autolite 1100 for a '64-'67 200. The '64 should have the manual choke, the newer ones automatic. It has the same flange pattern and 1.5 in bore as your 144 or 170 carb, but flows more cfm. Don't tell them your core is from a '62 144 - you are driving a '65 mustang with a 200 A remanufactured 1100 should run about $85.

Don't get a '68 or newer autolite as it will not give you enough timing advance- it's designed to work with centrifugal advance wich you don't have. The later distributor won't work in your '62 block- only mid- '64 and newer blocks.

Sedanman

 

[wsa111]

For a real power boast, give pony carburetor a shout. They have a 1100 autolite with a 223 venturi which flows 215 cfm. This is your best bang for the buck. The carb is compatable with your pre 67 distriburtor advance.
Give them a shout. Pony carburetors has moved to arizona. You will have to do some investagation for their phone # & e-mail address. Hope this info helps.William
www.ponycarburetors.com

 

[CZLN6]

Howdy Jake and All:

It seem like we've been down this road before?

Jake your '62 144 came with a Holley #1909. It has a side hung float bowl and is rated at 130 cfm.

FoMoCo began using the Autolite 1100s in '63 on 144s and 170s. The Autolite 1100 for 144 engines is rated at 130 cfm, while the 170 version is rated at 156 cfm.

An Autolite 1100 for a 1963/64 170 will be most compatible with your stock '62 144. Specify that you want the one for an Automatic trans. It will have a manual choke, Spark Control Valve and the same bolt pattern as you current Holley. The increase in cfm will provide a noticeable increase in power. It will not require any other changes. Air cleaner, fuel lines, vacuum hoses and linkage should be compatible.

If you attempt to buy this carb from NAPA, Checker or other chain parts houses, specify that you want a rebuilt Autolite, NOT a service replacement. The best source is to find a rebuildable core and rebuild it yourself. Look for a C3OF-B or AL. A C4OF-G, BB, or BK would also work.

Know that all of the other carbs suggested here will require considerable adaptation and tuning. All are 200 size cfm or larger which will add tuning issues on a 144 with a 2 speed auto.

Also know that all of the one barrel carbs discussed here are very susceptible to dirt and contamination. All have a relatively weak accelerator pump system and are adversely effected by heat. The exception being the rather pricey Pony Carb.

William- I believe Pony carbs new residence is in Las Cruses, NM.

Adios, David

 

[Anonymous]

Jake,
What David(CzLN6) didn't tell you is you should also get his manual on the Falcon 6 cylinder.
http://www.fordsix.com/shop.html
It is without a doubt one of the very best manuals for the beginner to get and read.
I should warn you, where you are only looking for a little better carb, if you read David and his brothers manual, you will probably end up doing all kinds of 'good' things to your Falcon(or other badge brand).
I took my manual and clipped off about 1/4" on each edge and then had it laminated for 'garage' use.
I can use china markers to make notes and then wipe clean when done.
Oil and grease don't mark everthing up also.
FWIW
DaveP

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks to all that have wrote back and suggested many great things. I do have the Ford 6 Handbook, and its very good indeed. It is just so cunfusing and almost where I need to read all that I can then just try things to make mine better...Of course when I get more money i'll do more to my chero. I have been looking for something to where i can just get it back on the road and not have to worry that it'll make it back home. Thanks again for all the help, this is a great forum.....Jake

 

[Anonymous]

Keep in mind that if you don't have the correct carb for them (meaning the one you want rebuilt) pony charges about a $100 core charge to provide one for the rebuild. That means over $250 for a rebuilt one barrel. I'd think about your long term goals before you spend that much - if you plan to keep a stock engine, go for it, but if you want to "build" a bigger engine down the road you'll want to a bigger carb then, soI'd get something less expensive for now.

Sedanman