Twin Turbos...Is It Possible?

[Anonymous]

maybe one of us will win the lottery, then build a 700whp mustang that does 9's in the 1/4 and pulls 1G on the skidpad thanks to its IRS and full coilover suspension. then it will brake 60-0 in 100ft because it will have 14" full floating brembos in front with 13" in the back. add to that power rack and pinion steering, A/C, a 2000 watt stereo, and heated seats and you got a winner.

hey, i can dream right?!!?

 

[Anonymous]

maybe one of us will win the lottery, then build a 700whp mustang

I could squeeze 700 HP out of my '69 year block 351W with Victor Jr heads and twin TO4B's at 20 psi.

I already have all the parts ready to go together.................but I got distracted with the 6 bangers that kept coming with the parts cars I was buying!!!!

!

 

[Anonymous]

lol, no thanks. 700rwhp V8....like i've never seen one of those before. i want to see this engine get where bmw's 3.2L M3 motor has and make power like the 7M-GTE, 1JZGTTE, and 2JZGTTE do.

 

[Anonymous]

I want to see this engine get where bmw's 3.2L M3 motor has and make power like the 7M-GTE, 1JZGTTE, and 2JZGTTE do.

Keep dreamin'....

I'll swap in a 2JZ before I try to get that much power from a Ford 200.

There are just way too many design/engineering limitations to overcome...... If you compare the two engines side by side you will see very clearly that one was engineered to be a very cheap-to-make economy engine.....and the other for premium performance.

Now, you look at drag-200stang's set up and times he runs, but It isn't a smooth everyday kind of engine.

You could probably get some good numbers from a turbocharged 200 with the aluminum SP head (tryin to crunch some $$$ here) but you would end up still falling short of the DOHC wonders.

 

[Anonymous]

yup, pushrods are a bitch. but we can always dream right? lol.

 

[Anonymous]

How about...

7:1 compression ratio
Aluminum SP head
Holley 350 with annular boosters and milled horn
272 cam
stainless header
Master Power Super T70 turbo, 24x12x4 Front mount intercooler

and 40 (or more) psi....on C16 race gas.



Not really treetable, but....


Have you seen the video of the single-turbo 1163HP DOHC 4.0 Aussie engine on the dyno? One of those in my Mustang would totally be the $h!t!!


http://turbobuicks.net/movies//Non-Buic ... 1163hp.avi !
(if I could get my hands on one)

 

[Anonymous]

Holy cr@p, you gotta see this:

http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/sho ... adid=40328

Exhaust goes into the T66 inlet, then flows out of the T66 into the T88 inlet. There is a wastegate that open at 10 PSI allowing some exhasust to bypass the 66 and flow straight to the 88.

Cold air enters the 88 compressor, which then discharges into the 66 inlet which then discharges into the FMIC.


That set-up costs HUGE $$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[boston774]

Linc's - intersting comments re: the DOHC Toyotas and BMWs. My recollection is that mid-90s Supras could pretty easily hit 500-550 rwhp with a single big turbo, and still be reasonably streetable. It wasn't cheap, and you needed to be VERY careful with the electronics, but it was doable, and the blocks didn't grenade.

And as for the BMWs, the big 3.8 litre M 6-cylinders were putting out 360 horse, and 450 was easily attainable with better exhaust and cold air intake. I suspect that you could buy a used one from the EU, and be not far behind in $$$ from a 200 with a custom aluminum head and FI setup.

Food for thought - don't the Aussies have a really nasty Falcon (XR6???) with a 300+ hp turbo 6 available right now? How about one of those in a '65 Mustang.....

 

[Anonymous]

don't the Aussies have a really nasty Falcon (XR6???) with a 300+ hp turbo 6 available right now? How about one of those in a '65 Mustang.....

Yes, and the Ford FPV F6 Typhoon as well (360-hp and just over 400 lb./ft. torque). I had a website that had a single turbo DOHC Aussie 4.0 on the dyno making 1163 HP, but it isn't working anymore.

I would be happy with 500 HP out of pretty much any engine, really (my twin turbo 351W will eventually do that). Any more isn't usable at all on the street.

 

[boston774]

Agreed - any time you are making more than 4-500 hp, you need some serious structural reinforcement. I remember in the late 80s when the 5.0 guys would regularly twist Mustangs like pretzels when they started playing with high-boost Paxtons.

Plus, you have to be a VERY good driver to control that much power without traction control. Especially in crappy weather conditions. I currently drive one of the Saab Aeros, and even with only 250 horse, and all kinds of ABS and TCS, it has come close to getting away from me a couple of times.

 

[Anonymous]

i like those lil SAAB 9-3X's, you know, the wagon type ones. they look pretty neat and they have some decent power.