WOT up steep hill and rear main seal.

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Used my car at WOT up a very steep hill a couple of times to test it recently and then noticed a small leak coming from bottom of bell housing. I thought I had blown the rear main seal but it seems to have slowed nearly to a stop. Is it possible that oil can push past under pressure in these condition and not break the seal?
 
8) I'm sure it's possible that the internarl pressure was not able to vent fast enough to cause a slight leak. Is your breather clean? PVC valve working okay? EGR valve ( if you have one working?)
 
Actually I had trouble getting my breather cap to stay on so I bought one that is rubber on the base for my 250 2V. I had to cut the hole in the rubber myself when fitting it and noticed also that the top is filled with foam rubber and the hole I made was much smaller than the original cap would have been.
I have since made the hole in the rubber much bigger (maximum) but I doupt this cap breathes anywhere near as much as the original. It makes this new stay on cap a bit suspect I geuss.
Thanks.
 
Wow, interesting!

Living in hilly Dunedin, the same fault is noted with my 4.1. Take the old girl for a serious bash, park it up at my mate Grants steep drive, and oil piddles out the back of the engine. On a flat, no problem.According to the ring makers information for the forged pistons I'm using on my project engine, there is an overwhelming increasing in blowby over 4500 rpm if you use the factory ring settings on the Falcon I6, and certainly if you use the XF style low drag piston rings, there is likely to be a huge amount of blow-by. Ford lowered the readline 300 rpm with this modification in October 1984. 4800 rpm, down to 4500 rpm. Before that, a cast iron headed XD 4.1 could take brief sperts to 5300 rpm.

Most 250 cars run ~3 cfm of crankcaes blowby at 4500 rpm, according to the charts based on blow by per inch of cylinder bore verses ring clearance. It can go up to ~5 cfm! The idea is to set the ring gaps as closest you can without flutter. I'd say with the stock setting, the earlier rope seal is suspect, because it may pick up the total blow by. I'm fairly certain this is why Ford minted the 83 DA block, which had the dog turd main seal when the tighter low drag rings were put in the Falcon in 1984.

Rope seals and the later type can be redone in place, but I'd just monitor it, and see if a hard trash at sub 4000 rpm yields the same problem.

There are technically correct ways of fixing it, if you can't go in an change the ring settings once your engine is built.
54Ford may be aware of the crankcase venturi system used in race cars to crate blow by suction from the scaveging of the exhast. Its just a non return PCV valve that bleads off blow by from the crankcase right to the area below the header tube. In engines that are getting old, it can reduce the work the rings do, stop ring flutter, and deal with the ill afects of blowby. On engines that have issues with oil control, these set-ups are very good.
 
It was hard to see the tacho at night with the red drag light blazing in my face. But I did only one 2500 to 4000 rpm at WOT and one 2500 to 4300 WOT in third, it was a trucks use low gear hill.
Ill never do it again on that hill it scared me enough to put me off driving that fast for a long time. There must be better ways of doing a time trial.
 
Tim! That's what hills are for! Get the motor warm, and put the boot in. Away from the strip, it's the hardest you can "legally" work the motor.

Adam.
 
Next time Ill just make sure I pick a hill without corners. I kinda had planned that at WOT it would accelerate to 100 once I was out of the corner not midway through it. The car needed to be just a bit slower.
Your right Hills are the best way. Just straight ones.
Cheers
 
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