Weber 38 carb drains bowl when engine is shut off

Norman

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66 Mustang 200 brand new rebuild per Clifford performance specs.
New carb new mallory distributer. I live at 7100 feet I can not get the
idle screw turned in any less than 11/8 of turn.Cam degreed per cam card.
Car runs good thru all ranges but drains carb when car is shut off.
 
welcome!
not a weber guy (humm 38's a bigun) but there's 3 or 4 min. on here!
Hang in as it might B slo due to the holiday, but they WILL come.

How long does it take to dry out the float bowl (you've confirmed that w/ a check inside?)?
(Oh, wait, they don't wrk that way?)
:|
 
Something is wrong, if the carb was bought recently, I'd contact the seller. I fired up my 250 last week in cool weather after 3 weeks or so of it sitting and it fired off immediately. I don't know anything about that carb but the only thing I can think of would be if the engine compartment is so hot at shut down that it boils the gas out through the vent. I have a 5/8" phenolic spacer under my carb. Still not sure it should make that kind of difference in this weather though. Do you smell gas after shut down, have you looked down the throat into the manifold for pooling? It's finding it's way into the manifold or back down the fuel line somehow....
 
I sent the carb back to Redline weber to look at they said
carb was good but that the idle screw was to far in. but if I
turn the idle screw out any farther the engine wont idle.
 
Norman":w65ws33u said:
I sent the carb back to Redline weber to look at they said
carb was good but that the idle screw was to far in. but if I
turn the idle screw out any farther the engine wont idle.
well, that means you need a different idle jet...
 
I have tried going smaller and larger jets but makes little or no change.
Idle screw doesnt change but maybe a 1/8 of a turn.
 
Norman":26b5ygkh said:
I have tried going smaller and larger jets but makes little or no change.
Idle screw doesnt change but maybe a 1/8 of a turn.
idle jets? there are three jets per side on a webber, idle, mid, and full, not sure if the idle screw is a fuel screw (open for rich) or an air screw, figuring that out, will tell you if you need smaller or larger idle jets...
 
Idle screw opens butterflies. I have gone smaller on the idle fuel jets I
have also gone smaller on the high speed fuel jets and also gone larger
on mid range air bleeds.
 
Norman":1k9fjj86 said:
Idle screw opens butterflies. I have gone smaller on the idle fuel jets I
have also gone smaller on the high speed fuel jets and also gone larger
on mid range air bleeds.
Thats the idle speed screw, not the idle mixture screw...
 
Idle mixture screws on both barrels run the best with 1 1/8 turn out.
But with all jet changes speed screw doesnt change 1 1/8 turn in.
Weber says speed screw should be no more than 1/2 turn in.
 
X reply to this members problem.
The other deal is to install a Holley & that will fix your Weber woes???
 
"X reply to this members problem.
The other deal is to in…"

66WarPony has some good experience w/the Webers too.
This may B an Itialian model (or may B those R da gooduns?)…
:?
 
chad":3d6ubv1o said:
"X reply to this members problem.
The other deal is to in…"

66WarPony has some good experience w/the Webers too.
This may B an Itialian model (or may B those R da gooduns?)…
:?
I have run Webber's for years, mostly on VWs, they are very well made carbs, and work great, but are a pain to tune...
 
Sent: Tue Nov 29, 2016
by xctasy who is away on bussiness

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7100 FEET FUEL HIEST!

xctasy":3b7wafsz said:
"Weber 38 carb drains bowl when engine is shut off"
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=75934


I guess you live at http://www.craterlakelodges.com/find-us/weather/ ????


Good fortune.

All the factory Ford Weber 38 DG carbs came with very good PCV valves and baffels. These carbs hate the standard Postive Crankcase Ventilation, check any powered booster and invest in getting an adjustable PCV valve if you cant dampen the PCV valve like Ford did on all its 2-bbl Weber carbed cars from 1969 to 1988, from 1300 to 3000 cc's cars that used the Weber had the Kent 1600, Pinto 1600/ 2000 and Lima 2300 style baffel to eliminate air flow influecing the idle and float bowel levels.

See viewtopic.php?f=1&t=73925&p=574647#p574647

Webers are very sensitive to dirt and what others call "bad" adjustments... float level is critical. They are a much more sophisticated instrument than a lot of other carbs.

If the idles you have fitted are working and you can adjust from too rich to too lean with the adjustment screws they are probably OK.
If the emulsion tubes are blocked in any way you will also have problems there.

One common fault is for people put the small air corrector jet from a progressive carb into the secondary side of a DGAS .

As you'll know, the DGAS is not progressive so be sure someone hasn't replaced one of the air correctors with a smaller jet .

Check needle and seat and fit a new 38DGAS/38DGES/38DGMS 250 micron 2.5 mm Needle and seat valve.

Reset the float as per Swatson454

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/weber ... ndex2.html

post #20 of 102 Old 02-20-2012, 04:41 PM

And post #29 of 102 Old 02-25-2012, 11:24 PM

Check for leaks using an unlit propane lighter while the engine is on idling...if idle goes up, there is a gasket or adaptor leak somewhere. And 9 times outa 10, there is.

I'd expect your car to empty its float bowles with modern fuels at your altitude, but the other matters might be related to the type of 38 Weber you have.

Jeeps use a steel return line filter, and some 38's have a return line to stop fuel bleed off
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/weber ... aw-927959/
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http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/thre ... lp.697683/

Power valve...check it and its diaphram are not hard and brittle. Renew it with a 3.6 or 8.5 power valve.

Accelertor pump diaphrams mate to a facing that on 38's sometimes have wrongly machined base lugs, and this can cause problems with accelerator pump leakage. There are check valves in the accelerator pump linkage too, and often, parts get put asside.
 
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