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250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #1 by 65-coupe » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:57 pm

Well I finally am starting my 250 short block build. Meet with the machine shop yesterday and set a plan. I have a set of NOS TRW forged pistons with a 6.5cc dish. I will be installing ARP rod bolts and main bolts. Everything will be resized with the new ARP bolts installed. He will be balancing everything so it runs nice and smooth. End C/R with be 10.5-1.

I will be installing my CI alum head(50.5 chamber) and intake, 1.65 YT roller rockers, DUI dist recurved for new build, new high flow water pump from FlowKooler, headers, electric fans, new oil pump and fuel pump. Holley 390 4bbl. I plan to install a 2bbl FiTech shortly after drive the engine for a bit.

Still not sure which cam I will be running.
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Re: 250 build for my 65 mustang.

Post #2 by wsa111 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:19 pm

Call Jerry @ Schneider Cams. He is very knowledgeable wit h our ford small sixes. You can mention my name.
I don't anything from it but he will guide you in the right direction.Bill
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Re: 250 build for my 65 mustang.

Post #3 by 65-coupe » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:20 pm

wsa111 wrote:Call Jerry @ Schneider Cams. He is very knowledgeable wit h our ford small sixes. You can mention my name.
I don't anything from it but he will guide you in the right direction.Bill


I just spoke with him on the phone. I just need to figure out if i am going to use the Fitech or Sniper EFI or triple Weber side drafts.
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Re: 250 build for my 65 mustang.

Post #4 by 65-coupe » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:23 pm

Here are the specs for my 250 build.
69 block bored .020 over, decked to .040, NOS TRW .020 forged piston 6.5cc dish, main cap girdle, ARP main studs, ARP bolts on rods, resized rods, balanced rods and pistons, crank polished, Aline honed, C/R 10.5-1, 1.65 Yella Terra roller rockers, DUI, dual out headers and x pipe to 2" exhaust, Schneider cam 262/270 112(.050 208/214, lift 478 and 486) CI alum head and intake with performance porting, FiTech EFI( 2bbl or 4bbl). T5 with billet steel fly wheel. Hoping for 250+HP and TQ. New bolts from AMK. Hopefully start Assembly in a couple of weeks.

Cam was recommend by Schneider cams for my build. I wanted low end TQ and the 112 is better for EFI.
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Post #5 by 65-coupe » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:17 pm

Up date with pics. I changed my cam from the Schneider cam 262/270 112 to the Clay Smith 274/274 110. Hope fully have the engine together this week. Then I get to figure out a new A/C bracket and engine mounts. I also found a set of NOS Hooker competition 6602 headers. Looks like I will me running Holley Sniper EFI. Story will be featured in Mustang Monthly.
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Post #6 by bmbm40 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:27 pm

Nice Mustang and 250 build.
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250 build for my 65 mustang.

Post #7 by chad » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:34 pm

R we runnin build threads on here?
Thought it wuz 4 tech Qs?

Yes, I C ur gettin it together as 250 now, '65poppy.
Lookin good~
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Re: 250 build for my 65 mustang.

Post #8 by B RON CO » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:03 pm

Hi, really nice build.
I'd bet you'll pass 250 HP.
I'm thinkin' the rest of the car is screamin".
What's up with that bell housing?
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Re: 250 build for my 65 mustang.

Post #9 by 65-coupe » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:28 pm

B RON CO wrote:Hi, really nice build.
I'd bet you'll pass 250 HP.
I'm thinkin' the rest of the car is screamin".
What's up with that bell housing?
Good luck


I will be selling it with the T5 adapter, clutch, flywheel and block plate.
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Post #10 by 65-coupe » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:29 pm

chad wrote:R we runnin build threads on here?
Thought it wuz 4 tech Qs?

Yes, I C ur gettin it together as 250 now, '65poppy.
Lookin good~

I've post all three of my builds on here.
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Post #11 by chad » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:02 pm

"...I will be selling it with..."
or as a sales endeavor...

"...I've post all three of my builds..."
that's kinda Y I mention it.

OK, not a moderator here (obviously). I will hit 'delete' or join ya all again.
Thnx,
no :deadhorse: here...
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Post #12 by 65-coupe » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:18 pm

chad wrote:"...I will be selling it with..."
or as a sales endeavor...

"...I've post all three of my builds..."
that's kinda Y I mention it.

OK, not a moderator here (obviously). I will hit 'delete' or join ya all again.
Thnx,
no :deadhorse: here...
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The sales part was because another asked about the bellhousing. Not trying to sell stuff in the thread.

Plus doing a new build thread gives other ideas on how to gain performance and what works for others. There are many build threads under this section.
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Re: 250 build for my 65 mustang.

Post #13 by Econoline » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:39 pm

10.5:1 w/ a 250 is a big ask on pump gas. I see you've got an aluminum head and you're using a pretty big cam. With 50 1/2 cc chambers and stock size dishes you must have alot of leeway in deck height. Did you deck the block at all? How fast are you planning on spinning this beast? Did you drop the efi plans? Imo, ol boy screwed the pooch when he made the head patterns w/ 54cc chambers.
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Post #14 by 65-coupe » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:47 pm

Econoline wrote:10.5:1 w/ a 250 is a big ask. I see you've got an aluminum head and you're using a pretty big cam. With 50 1/2 cc chambers and stock size dishes you must have alot of leeway in deck height. Did you deck the block at all? How fast are you planning on spinning this beast? Did you drop the efi plans? Imo, ol boy screwed the pooch when he made the head patterns w/ 54cc chambers.


The block has been deck to .040. Plan to make red line 6000rpms, I will be running Holley Sniper EFI. I never planned on building a 250 when I bought the head. So that is why I had Mike mill the head a bit.
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Re: 250 build for my 65 mustang.

Post #15 by Matthew68 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:52 pm

chad wrote:R we runnin build threads on here?
Thought it wuz 4 tech Qs?

Yes, I C ur gettin it together as 250 now, '65poppy.
Lookin good~


I love the build threads. Gives me ideas, inspirations, and allows others to comment and ask questions.

Wish we saw more of these.
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Post #16 by chad » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:30 pm

check policy.
I C elsewhere for build threads.
Nothing implied "none" on ford6.
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Post #17 by 65-coupe » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:36 am

chad wrote:check policy.
I C elsewhere for build threads.
Nothing implied "none" on ford6.


Here are multiple enginebuilds from the section.

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viewtopic.php?f=1&t=75233
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=77528
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=79710
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=79767
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=79475
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=79553
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Post #18 by 65coupei6 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:36 am

Nice pictures. Keep them coming.

I swapped in a Power Master mini stater then wrapped it with a heat shield from DEI. It will not do anything for performance. But, it did give me some good header clearance. Plus, it turns over easier.

As for side drafts or EFI. That might also determine your fuel system setup.
For the EFI you can keep your current setup and use an external pump. But, you will need a return. Unless you already have one. For the side drafts nothing really changes.

Also, if you run side drafts or any carb. I always liked running a fuel filter with a return line or vapor return. The original OZ 250's did this. https://www.google.com/search?ei=c5OXXM ... 3-rSY-0jOI

But, I prefer an internal pump for EFI. Either way, I have some extra parts that might help you. Just PM me.
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Post #19 by chad » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:47 am

Thnx 4 the opportunity...last comment.

Mostly this forum is for tech Qs. Less is for "Look what I'm doin." or - sales.
The posts U put in the body R mostly a tech Q format. Not wavin it around'n sayin:
"Look at what I got."
Nuttin personal, all bout purpose. Again, I defer to policy'n my delete button.
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Post #20 by 65-coupe » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:02 am

65coupei6 wrote:Nice pictures. Keep them coming.

I swapped in a Power Master mini stater then wrapped it with a heat shield from DEI. It will not do anything for performance. But, it did give me some good header clearance. Plus, it turns over easier.

As for side drafts or EFI. That might also determine your fuel system setup.
For the EFI you can keep your current setup and use an external pump. But, you will need a return. Unless you already have one. For the side drafts nothing really changes.

Also, if you run side drafts or any carb. I always liked running a fuel filter with a return line or vapor return. The original OZ 250's did this. https://www.google.com/search?ei=c5OXXM ... 3-rSY-0jOI

But, I prefer an internal pump for EFI. Either way, I have some extra parts that might help you. Just PM me.


I will be using a mini starter from PA performance. I figure the extra clearance would be nice with headers.

This is the fuel setup I will be using new from Holley. WHich it uses your stock tank. https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_sy ... rts/12-305
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Post #21 by 65-coupe » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:16 pm

Finally had my crank gear broached so I could advance the cam. When we installed the cam is was at 113 and now we are at 108. Thanks to a friend who had a buddy that could do it for me. I will post a pic soon. I knew this might be a problem with the 250. I did call Crow cams in Aus. I told them I had a US 250 inline 6 and if they had a timing set the would work. So they got back to be and said they did. I bought it but is was smaller. I checked it to the 200 timing set and it is different then it. So the US 250 and Aus 250 pre crossflow are different. I will also have to deal with fitting a/c to the engine. So I will post pics of how I end up doing it. I am hoping to fit the engine in the car next week. So that I can figure out the motor mounts and what modifications I have to do.
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Post #22 by 65-coupe » Sat May 04, 2019 9:50 am

Here is a pic of the crank gear with a new notch to advance the cam. Not sure how he figured how much to do. But it worked. I measured for my pushrods and will have them Tues. Hopefully next week I can fit engine into the car. I will update with how I end up mounting engine.
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Post #23 by rocklord » Sat May 04, 2019 12:03 pm

Nice build.

Where'd you get your export brace?
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Post #24 by 62Cometman » Mon May 06, 2019 1:13 pm

I havent seen anyone ask yet but where did you get that main girdle from? Import from AUS? id be interested to know.
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Post #25 by xctasy » Mon May 06, 2019 2:42 pm

Nice work, 65-coupe.



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Post #26 by 65-coupe » Mon May 06, 2019 9:36 pm

62Cometman wrote:I havent seen anyone ask yet but where did you get that main girdle from? Import from AUS? id be interested to know.


I ordered it off Aus Ebay. it included ARP studs with the kit.
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Post #27 by 65-coupe » Sun May 19, 2019 5:50 pm

So I finally have the engine in. I did have to modify my trans cross member. Which included lengthening the bolt holes and cut and weld the e-brake bracket. I have it as low as I can get it with it not hitting the steering center link. I have 2 1/8" of clearance from the water pump to radiator. I will be running one 16" electric fan and an 8". I will install my hooker headers after I break the cam in. then install new 2.25" exhaust. Still have to figure lower radiator hose and redo the A/C lines for a cleaner look. My 200 A/C bracket will work and line up. Should have my 3G alternator and mini starter this week.
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Post #28 by bmbm40 » Sun May 19, 2019 7:05 pm

Looking good. Nice work.
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Post #29 by xctasy » Mon May 20, 2019 2:13 am

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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #30 by 65-coupe » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:30 pm

ITS ALIVE. We made our own Frankenstein run stand. Should be back in the car next week. I will install the Hooker headers when we install in the car. Link is to VIDEO of it running.

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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #31 by Econoline » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:39 pm

It's looking good. I love the makeshift stand. Didn't I sell you my flywheel and clutch?
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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #32 by 65-coupe » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:36 pm

Econoline wrote:It's looking good. I love the makeshift stand. Didn't I sell you my flywheel and clutch?


I believe so.
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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #33 by Econoline » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:30 pm

Nice! I hope it works out for your 250. It looked like a nice setup. As far as I could see it was never driven even though I pulled it off the motor after I got it. I think the kid I bought my 250 from pulled the engine and went through it and made some plans, like that billet flywheel and new clutch, but then went for a v8 and sold it to me before it ever went back in the car. He claimed he drove it 40 miles or so. And it's a good thing to, b'c he would have been running somewhere around 8:1 compression with the new gaskets and no other work done on a virgin block. Tijuana tune-up+ ;) lol
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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #34 by 65coupei6 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:42 pm

Any updates??
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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #35 by 65-coupe » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:36 pm

65coupei6 wrote:Any updates??


Then engine is in nd I moved it on its own yesterday. The hooker headers sit to low so I am not able to use them. So I installed the CI headers but the down pipes are not low enough. So I have to modify them to clear the cross brace for the trans mount. I had to use the new Flex A Lite 16" wave fan to clear water pump pulley. I also installed a 8" fan too. Hopefully I will be driving it next week. I installed my stock alternator bracket to the A/C bracket to clear the headers.
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Post #36 by 65-coupe » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:39 pm

I also had new A/C lines made.
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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #37 by Soldmy66 » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:49 pm

Everything looks top notch.

Would it be possible to fill the long tube headers with sand (to avoid crimping), heat them and bend the lower section up and to an acceptable angle?

Just an idea ...

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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #38 by 65coupei6 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:28 am

Really nice work! I was wondering how the headers would fit since the height was changed. All in all. I think the modifications you did with cutting and welding mounts, brackets, etc are all worth it in the end. I can not wait to see the article.

Some questions. Are you keeping the CI valve cover? Did you install baffles? Also, what year are the upper and lower radiator hoses from?

Lastly, is your battery in the trunk? If it is. I saw a nice mod at a Cars and Coffee event. The guy lowered the solenoid and used a piece of rubber and shaped it for a mount. Attached is a pic.
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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #39 by 65-coupe » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:00 am

65coupei6 wrote:Really nice work! I was wondering how the headers would fit since the height was changed. All in all. I think the modifications you did with cutting and welding mounts, brackets, etc are all worth it in the end. I can not wait to see the article.

Some questions. Are you keeping the CI valve cover? Did you install baffles? Also, what year are the upper and lower radiator hoses from?

Lastly, is your battery in the trunk? If it is. I saw a nice mod at a Cars and Coffee event. The guy lowered the solenoid and used a piece of rubber and shaped it for a mount. Attached is a pic.

Yes the battery is in trunk. I installed the Moroso baffled gromets. The radiator hoses are from a 69 mustsng 250.
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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #40 by yodabiri » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:09 pm

That is an awesome build. I too have a 250 in my 65. What did you use for the motor mounts to lower the engine in the engine bay? I saw the pictures but cant tell what they are from. I'm running stock 200 mounts and the engine barely leaves any room for a carb or air cleaner.
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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #41 by 65-coupe » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:37 pm

yodabiri wrote:That is an awesome build. I too have a 250 in my 65. What did you use for the motor mounts to lower the engine in the engine bay? I saw the pictures but cant tell what they are from. I'm running stock 200 mounts and the engine barely leaves any room for a carb or air cleaner.


I used a 72 Maverick frame mount with a set of adjustable that mount to engine.
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250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #42 by chad » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:01 pm

most the guys here say: the "late Mav mounts"
which isa mount/tower riveted together at the mating faces oem.
There's bout 1/2 doz ways to 'raise the hood'. I can PM w/interest~
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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #43 by 65-coupe » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:10 am

yodabiri wrote:That is an awesome build. I too have a 250 in my 65. What did you use for the motor mounts to lower the engine in the engine bay? I saw the pictures but cant tell what they are from. I'm running stock 200 mounts and the engine barely leaves any room for a carb or air cleaner.
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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #44 by yodabiri » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:44 pm

Thanks for the pictures! Where did you get the adjustable engine side mounts? I tried searching but can't find anything that looks similar. I bought some 69 mustang 250 mounts, but the isolators are shot. I do think they can be used to lower the engine in the copartment, just need to be creative with the mounts that bolt to the engine.
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250 ina 65 mustang 4 sale soon...

Post #45 by chad » Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:36 pm

or weld'n cut like this guy.
rubbers look like spring shackle bushins...
U can pour ur own outta a can (2 part goop).

Again, 'late Mav oem". Ck above tech archive or "the Handbook"...
(No? pm 4 the other 1/2 doz "raise da hood" work-a-rounds). C below
email in my signature...

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Hello,
You mentioned you have several ways to increase hood clearance?
AVS
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yes, 4 awhile I wuz the frd6 “holder of" such a list (altho a 'truck' rather than 'car' guy). The 60s/70s fords R known for this ‘problem’.
Lemmie C if I can re-develop:

1) suspension lift (yes, in some cases)
2) body lift
3) hood scoop
4) direct mount carb
5) remote air cleaner housing or carb hat & hose
6) late Mav towers and mounts
7) low rise carbs (RBS @ 215 cfm; 1100/1 @ ? cfm)

seems there were a copula more (2). All can B adapted w/in themselves as well (I'll use 1st half of #5) like the thread starter here (custom mounts'n towers). Several can B combined (also my need). Most R also performance mods as well...

Add to our list if U can,
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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #46 by 65-coupe » Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:38 pm

Sniper has arrived still waiting on the new intake fuel pump/sending unit. That should arrive in a couple of weeks.
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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #47 by bubba22349 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:57 pm

:beer: Congrats shouldn't be long now before you get that Mustang back driving! Can't wait to hear how your 250 combo performs. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

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Re: 250 build thread for my 65 mustang.

Post #48 by 65-coupe » Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:21 pm

bubba22349 wrote::beer: Congrats shouldn't be long now before you get that Mustang back driving! Can't wait to hear how your 250 combo performs. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:


Driving it now with the Holley 390 carb. Need to advance the timming a bit. But big difference from the 200
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motor/frame connections - 250 for '65 stang.

Post #49 by chad » Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:22 pm

summit (GM)
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ens- ... gLzGPD_BwE

some (ford) 'my brothers' use in bronks (/289/302/5.0)
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https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/product/E ... gLZpfD_BwE

https://www.tomsbroncoparts.com/product ... gJsgvD_BwE

Last has drill space. But Y use? A least not totally custom made. Best:
oneada oems - rest0mods have enuff probs. Gunna make another custom? Gunna repair a custom?
No, get another oem, easier...
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Post #50 by bubba22349 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:32 pm

65-coupe wrote:
bubba22349 wrote::beer: Congrats shouldn't be long now before you get that Mustang back driving! Can't wait to hear how your 250 combo performs. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:


Driving it now with the Holley 390 carb. Need to advance the timming a bit. But big difference from the 200


Glad to hear that it's already running yeah you got to love all that extra torque of the 250 over a 200. :thumbup: :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

I am still hunting for a project car to build but with my current low budget it's not looking so good. My Ex- Fleet of Sixes these are all long gone! :bang: 1954 Customline 223 3 speed with O/D, 1963 Fairlane project drag car with BB6, 1977 Maverick 250 with C4, 1994 F-150 a 300 with 5 speed.

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