From Ryan's original thread,
Yes I do and I did offer it up.
drag-200stang":1p0ssvz1 said:I feel bad for you...
Something not put together right.
9'' bell on a 8-1/2 small pattern only early block.
frozenrabbit":1p0ssvz1 said:It is looking like you've got a 9" flywheel and clutch set up on a 8.5" clutch block.
What's the casting number on your block?
StarDiero75":1p0ssvz1 said:The block is the original 65
Yes that is true i jave a 9" on a 8.5" block.
frozenrabbit":1p0ssvz1 said:Dude.......Very bad news...
You are either going to have to find another engine with a 'dual bolt pattern", or a later 200 with just the 9" bell bolt pattern.
Or, get a 8.5" flywheel and clutch, find a (64) Econoline (3.03) bell
Best advice, find a complete later engine and transmission
bubba22349":1p0ssvz1 said:well there you go! 200-Dragstang & Frozenrabbit, seen the problems with bell housing mounting and nailed it! It's just too bad you didn't post those pictures at the very beginning of this journey, you could have saved yourself lots of time, some of your money, and much of your frustration.
frozenrabbit":1p0ssvz1 said:A T5 transmission, 8.5" flywheel and pressure plate, 8.5" bell, T5 conversion clutch disc, T5 cross member, pilot bearing, custom drive shaft, 2.77 to T5 trans adapter from someplace like Modern DriveLine. And other conversion parts I'm sure I'm missing in this short list.
http://transmission.moderndriveline.com ... -7p138.htm
Even with a free transmission, you are easily over $1000 with just T5 conversion parts, not including stock 8.5" parts or drive shaft, to do this.
Don't know what your budget is, but I'd just find a complete engine with a 3.03.
StarDiero75":1p0ssvz1 said:I already have a 3.03. Thats what the problem with me setup. If i can keep it without changing my engine thatd be perfect
frozenrabbit":1p0ssvz1 said:Only way to correctly get your 8.5" block to your 3.03 is with the Econoline bell housing setup.
There is a user on here named Econoline, I believe he has a bell housing, and Econline trans, he might sell the bell seperate.
Yes I do and I did offer it up.
powerband":1p0ssvz1 said:. It's simple to determine. The "dual drilled' 170/200's have the bellhouse block fastener 'holes' at top/rear of block deck right below the head at the head/block gasket line.. NON dual drilled for small bell only have bolt 'holes' @ 2" below the deck/head mating surface.
drag-200stang":1p0ssvz1 said:I can confirm that a C8 was duel and came from a 70 170..A C6 duel from a 66 200...C8 duel 200...D8 duel 200 and a member just posted that his E1 200 high mount was a duel..I do not buy that 67-79 were 9'' only...There is always fords exception to any rule...I have never seen a single bell mount with a high mount starter after late 66, I am sure there out there,..Maybe a west coast factory thing.powerband":1p0ssvz1 said:from Modern DriveLine page: .... The mid 200’s, 1965-68, had dual pattern blocks. And the late 200 block castings, 1967-1979 only had the 9” set-up
AFAIF
The C8DE 200 and 170 castings were dual-drilled and used in Mustang and MAverick through early 70's. The OEM - 3 frz plug 170 from my '71 Maverick is C8DE with 3 speed on column 3.03 with C7ZA 9 " clutch bellhouse. C8DE 200 in previous pic is dual drilled from late 60's Mustang.
haev fun
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Econoline":1p0ssvz1 said:It's been my understanding until it was refuted recently that all 200's are dual pattern except the early 8.5 pattern blocks. If anyone has a picture of a large pattern only block I want to see it. If you have or have had a large pattern only block I'd like to see a pic of it and hear about the details on the block date and code.