well I was out doing some junk yarding today. goal was to grab a coil pack setup off a gm with the HEI style posts instead of the ford EDIS coils I have currently (allows regular wires to be used)while walking around I saw a couple EDIS 2.3L rangers with the front clip and accessories stripped of them and got to thinking. 5mins later I had a 2.3L dummy plug in my had (basicly bottom of a dizzy base with a shaft and gear to run an oil pump) was with a buddy getting a PS pump for a SBC to got the dummy for free with the purchase of the pump..
anways to the good stuff. since hte price was right I figured that I could sleeve/bore and bastardize it to work on a 200 for when I go EDIS on the megasquirt box. My car and all is back up at home but I have a bare block here (crank, timing cover, block, head only) for mockingup stuff on.
there are three main areas of concern for fitting the dizzy in a block
1. oil pump drive size (the hex size)
2. shaft size (need to fit the shaft in the block)
3. body size (gotta get it in the hole in the first place)
as some know I used to play with 2.3L turbo cars. I had some various parts all over when I was putting in my 200 (owned a merkur at the time) well somehow at that time I managed to put a 2.3L oil pump drive in my 200. this is where I found out the drive size is the same (only the 2.3L has about a 1" shorter drive) so I knew #1 was good. then I started thinking about how the 2.3L motor was designed back around 1972 or so (first year was 1974 I think) so always wondered how similar the 2.3L was to a non metric motor...
well the pic below shows it...
the 2.3L shaft is the SAME size as the 200's. when inserted from teh bottom of the block (there the oil pump goes) it fits perfectly....no slop/play but spins freely!! so I slid it out and tried the top. I got it about 1/2" in and it got REAL tight....pulled it out adn then used some thinner to clean the overspray/paint out of the block to get a proper fit. once I clean it out it dropped RIGHT IN!!! it has maybe .010" clearance to it but fits darn near perfectly!!!
The goal for next weekend is to get a 2.3L TFI dizzy and a 3.8L one and see if I can transplant the 3.8L reluctor into the 2.3L dizzy and get teh 3.8L cap on it (two piece cap and hoping the base is the same on the two) if this works the only issue I would see being needed is a 200 drive gear (the 2.3L seems to be finer teeth on it) and prob drill a new hole to properly locate the gear on it.
if this actually works it might mean a bolt in TFI dizzy for a 200 using three donor dizzy's. this would mean that a CFI setup could be bolted on a 200 with no real serious mods to it.
anways to the good stuff. since hte price was right I figured that I could sleeve/bore and bastardize it to work on a 200 for when I go EDIS on the megasquirt box. My car and all is back up at home but I have a bare block here (crank, timing cover, block, head only) for mockingup stuff on.
there are three main areas of concern for fitting the dizzy in a block
1. oil pump drive size (the hex size)
2. shaft size (need to fit the shaft in the block)
3. body size (gotta get it in the hole in the first place)
as some know I used to play with 2.3L turbo cars. I had some various parts all over when I was putting in my 200 (owned a merkur at the time) well somehow at that time I managed to put a 2.3L oil pump drive in my 200. this is where I found out the drive size is the same (only the 2.3L has about a 1" shorter drive) so I knew #1 was good. then I started thinking about how the 2.3L motor was designed back around 1972 or so (first year was 1974 I think) so always wondered how similar the 2.3L was to a non metric motor...
well the pic below shows it...
the 2.3L shaft is the SAME size as the 200's. when inserted from teh bottom of the block (there the oil pump goes) it fits perfectly....no slop/play but spins freely!! so I slid it out and tried the top. I got it about 1/2" in and it got REAL tight....pulled it out adn then used some thinner to clean the overspray/paint out of the block to get a proper fit. once I clean it out it dropped RIGHT IN!!! it has maybe .010" clearance to it but fits darn near perfectly!!!
The goal for next weekend is to get a 2.3L TFI dizzy and a 3.8L one and see if I can transplant the 3.8L reluctor into the 2.3L dizzy and get teh 3.8L cap on it (two piece cap and hoping the base is the same on the two) if this works the only issue I would see being needed is a 200 drive gear (the 2.3L seems to be finer teeth on it) and prob drill a new hole to properly locate the gear on it.
if this actually works it might mean a bolt in TFI dizzy for a 200 using three donor dizzy's. this would mean that a CFI setup could be bolted on a 200 with no real serious mods to it.