200 and C-4

[Anonymous]

I just rebuilt my 65 200 and installed it last weekend. It is hooked up to a C-4 trans. My prob. is the converter bolts hit the dust cover and spacer plate.
What could be causing this?
Thanks

 

[Anonymous]

hm, did u put any or xtra washers on the bolts to the converter ? R they the right bolts ? R your spacer and dust cover bent at all, is the flexplate bent at all ? The same had apparently happened to the components on the 65 engine I acquired, the flexplate was kinda bent and had scarring as did the spacer.

 

[Anonymous]

hm, did u put any or xtra washers on the bolts to the converter ?
No I did not
R they the right bolts ?
Yes they are
R your spacer and dust cover bent at all, is the flexplate bent at all ?
I checked them all by laying them on a flat surface, they looked good to me
The same had apparently happened to the components on the 65 engine I acquired, the flexplate was kinda bent and had scarring as did the spacer.

I removed the dust cover hopeing that was all it was hitting but it was not it is still hitting the spacer plate, really bad in reverse

 

[Anonymous]

Thats weird, it sounds almost like the converter is changing its angle, for example, when u stick it in reverse. However, I'm not sure how the converter can move out of position. The converter is tacht to the flexplate, which is attacht to the crank, the other end of the converter is inside the tranny and engaging the pump, so I wonder what could be doin that, I spose someone w\ more technical knowledge could make a suggestion...

 

[Asa]

Thats weird, it sounds almost like the converter is changing its angle, for example, when u stick it in reverse. However, I'm not sure how the converter can move out of position. The converter is tacht to the flexplate, which is attacht to the crank, the other end of the converter is inside the tranny and engaging the pump, so I wonder what could be doin that, I spose someone w\ more technical knowledge could make a suggestion...

the converter might not be changing it's angle, but one of the bolts for the bell might be a little loose, or have something between them...
wish i had my car here so i could look and give a better guestimate

 

[Anonymous]

I guess I'll climb back under it tomorrow and check for loose bolts or what ever I can find

 

[Junk-Falcon]

almo

 

[Anonymous]

almost sounds like the converter isnt all the way into the front pump of the trans
The trans. was still in the car when I installed the engine, I pulled the converter out and put it back in to make sure it was locked in good, after the studs on the converter went in the flex plate i was able to run the bell housing bolts all the way up with my fingers so if the converter was not in good i would have had to pull the block up to the bell with a wrench.
It sure has me puzzeled

 

[Junk-Falcon]

well

 

[addo]

I once saw a creative solution to (I assume) the same problem, cause unknown. The enforcer ring was between the flexplate and crank, not after it. Added about 5/64" clearance.

Regards, Adam.

 

[Anonymous]

I once saw a creative solution to (I assume) the same problem, cause unknown. The enforcer ring was between the flexplate and crank, not after it. Added about 5/64" clearance.

Regards, Adam.

I have thought about getting a second ring to put there but I would think it needs the outer 1 for sure

 

[Anonymous]

Did you install a new converter? This happened to me once. Turned out the shop had sent me a converter for a C4 alright, but it was for a V-8...

 

[Anonymous]

original converter

 

[Anonymous]

When you rebuilt the motor, did you make sure the thrust bearing went on the #4 main? If not, your crank will walk enough to let the converter bolts hit the dust cover and, more likely, the starter.

 

[Anonymous]

If you got a new starter, it could be hitting the flange that goes into the bellhousing. It happened on my sister's car and we couldn't figure out what was wrong with the car.

 

[Anonymous]

Hey, Workin' -

Don't mean to sound rude, but, could the flex plate be backward on the engine? If so, the converter would be pulled about 1/2" closer to the engine than it should be. The result would be the convertor studs hitting the bell housing.

Just an idea - :roll: I can't see it from here

 

[Anonymous]

I once saw a creative solution to (I assume) the same problem, cause unknown. The enforcer ring was between the flexplate and crank, not after it. Added about 5/64" clearance.

Regards, Adam.

Too all you guru's out there is this a safe option? But also putting 1 on the outside of the flex plate.
Adam I'm not saying that your advise is wrong just want a second opion
I have tried everything I can think of today and this thing still hits the bolts
when i pull the engine back out i'm going to replace the flex plate allso.
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[Anonymous]

flex plate is installed correctly