200 CID crate engine

[Anonymous]

Hello, this is my first post here. I tried searching but anything with 200 in the title comes up with a many hits.

I originally had a 200 with a 3 speed in my 66 Mustang. I sold the engine/tranny and basically traded for a 289/4speed (from a 65) The more I get into it, the more I think I got in over my head and want to convert back to the 6 cyl. I have considered the 250 swap but I read some of the posts that mentioned it sits too high and has some clearance issues. I still may consider with a shelby-style hood or something to gain additional clearance.

My question is; does anyone sell 200 or 250 crate engines? A long-block is okay as then I can add induction, etc as I see fit.

Thanks,

Josh

 

[xctasy]

Your in luck! The numbers won't match, but you'll get darn close, and it shoudln't hurt your value

Two years ago, 1 500 dollars got you an exchange 3.3 or 4.1. That was the going rate.

I found this from Remanufactured.com


http://remanufactured.com/Ford_6_Cylinder_Engines.htm

FORD 3.3 200 6 - . 66-67 No A.I.R. pump DF29 $1,190 $300 $195*


My suggestion is to pick the later 1978 to 1980 engines, DF 31. They have a bigger carb, better heads, and will fit the earlier transmission housing if you use the right gear. You can pick up a 4-cylinder T5 gearbox from a 81 to 93 Mustang 2.3, and then track down the right 68 to 80 Four speed 3.3 bellhousing from a Fairmont or Maverick or Granada.


Get a stock 1946 Holley Motorcraft 1-bbl carb to get it running, and then look at some modifcations later on. A 5200 HW, 2100 Autolite or 2300 Holley 350 would be in keeping with the car.

Wait out a few hours to see the responses and testmonials from others here that may have used them. I think you'll be happy.

 

[Mercury Mike]

That's where I got my engine from. =)

 

[Anlushac11]

8)

They list the 80-84 engines as using block E1-BB.

FORD 3.3 200 6 - . 81-84 Block #E1be-Bb DF67 $1,090 $300 $195*

Does this mean it will have a big bell housing or is that only on some E1-BB"s had big bell's?

 

[Geezer 300]

Hmmm, a 1946 carb... kinda old, huh??

 

[wallaka]

8)

They list the 80-84 engines as using block E1-BB.

FORD 3.3 200 6 - . 81-84 Block #E1be-Bb DF67 $1,090 $300 $195*

Does this mean it will have a big bell housing or is that only on some E1-BB"s had big bell's?

Far as I know all of the BB series are the big bells.

 

[LaGrasta]

Hmmm, a 1946 carb... kinda old, huh??

I really am happy with my 1946. If keeping a one barrel, what would you suggest and why?

 

[Mercury Mike]

I use the 1940 'cause of my load-o-matic. In any case... while I got you in the post Anthony, the carb didn't end up suiting my needs exactly, but I did find the problem with my 1940 almost as soon as I got home. Kiiiiiind of ridiculous. But... charging my battery right now. I took the opportunity to re-wire my alternator with my new harness, it looks a lot cleaner, and I was missing some wires. In any case, thanks for the help anyways! Sorry to post-jack a little bit. But yeah, the 1940 is a nice carb.

 

[Anonymous]

I found this from Remanufactured.com


http://remanufactured.com/Ford_6_Cylinder_Engines.htm

FORD 3.3 200 6 - . 66-67 No A.I.R. pump DF29 $1,190 $300 $195*


My suggestion is to pick the later 1978 to 1980 engines, DF 31. They have a bigger carb, better heads, and will fit the earlier transmission housing if you use the right gear. You can pick up a 4-cylinder T5 gearbox from a 81 to 93 Mustang 2.3, and then track down the right 68 to 80 Four speed 3.3 bellhousing from a Fairmont or Maverick or Granada.


Get a stock 1946 Holley Motorcraft 1-bbl carb to get it running, and then look at some modifcations later on. A 5200 HW, 2100 Autolite or 2300 Holley 350 would be in keeping with the car.

Wait out a few hours to see the responses and testmonials from others here that may have used them. I think you'll be happy.

Thanks for the link!

Would it be easier to track down those parts than to buy the 66 200 and the t-5 kit that adapts the 5 speed to it?

 

[Anonymous]

You can pick up a 4-cylinder T5 gearbox from a 81 to 93 Mustang 2.3, and then track down the right 68 to 80 Four speed 3.3 bellhousing from a Fairmont or Maverick or Granada.

You sure?????

I'm almost positive a T-5 trans won't bolt to that bell.

 

[addo]

The Foxbody T-4 bell. As recently sold on Fleabay. Same bolt pattern as a T-5. Not the other fourspeeder bellhousing.

 

[Anonymous]

Not the other fourspeeder bellhousing.

ahhhh, the SROD.

I never heard of a T-4 before. Probably for good reason!

 

[xctasy]

Thanks Addo and Linc. I sometimes get my cogs unsynchronised.

1. If your lucky enough to find a junked 77 to 82 3.3 six 4-speed Fairmont, it'll most likely be a straight T-4 gearbox. Any thing from a LA/Cali Fox Fairmont from 1977 to 1980, they are nearly always automatic.

2. There is Big Als high quality alloy Modern Driveline adaptor conversion plate is avilable. This can be bolted up to any old 65 to 67 2.77 or 68 to 76 3.03 bellhousings. Thses are common to most Mustangs. There is a Dagenham bellhousing, but thats not gonna work. Although there is no "never!", "no you can't do that!" with I6 Fords!

You see, after 1965, and before 1981, all Ford 200 engines had a delightfull dual bolt pattern. Since Ford used all sorts of parts, you can make any engine fit any bellhousing with a little help.


3. The 200 or so bucks to by the Modern Driveline adaptor to fit the T5 gearbox to any pre 1977 bellhousing can be easily saved when you can use practically any bellhousing on a pre 1981 high mounted starter engine.

4. Ford had a lot of 1981 3.3's with either the early low mount or later high mount block. The engine casting number differed, and both could exist in the same year because the engines were ex Canada, and there was a hell of a mix up whe the 2.8 was axed in 1979, and the last X-shell Granada and the issues with 1980 Federal Emissions compliance resulted in some bizzare stockpiles. As lots have said, Ford used an 'empty box' inventory system, and you could have any kind of engine delivered to you 'just in time' on the production line. So the 1981 engine is a real oddball. It was found in all five Fox body cars that year except the Lincoln Continetal compact, and you can't be sure if a Tbird, Granada, Cougar, or Capri or Mustang I6 had a low or highmount starter unless the engine number matches the chart. Even the gearboxes could be US C4, Bordeux C3, or US C5. Each combination had a different kind of emissions package, with the termal converter on some. The rare Capri RS 3.3's had optional 4-speed gearboxs and these apparently weren't compatable with the low mount block. Hence Ford really did some obb stuff.


There ya, go, chose anything you like, you'll win!