66 200 carb options?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Anonymous
  • Start date Start date
A

Anonymous

Guest
I need to replace my autolite 1100 carb and wanted to know what options I have that don't require custom made adaptors. I am hoping to grab something from the junk yard. I don't care what year as long as it fits with little modification.

If there are no other options, whats the best/easiest solution?

James
 
If you do choose to stick with the Autolite 1100, I suggest buying one from PonyCarbs:

http://www.ponycarburetors.com/main.asp

They have the best rebuilt 1100 around and they fix all the flaws with the carb. I wouldn't buy one from your local parts store. I went through three carbs before buying a Pony Carb. My Pony Carb lasted over three years before it went out. The reason for it was I had a bad exhaust leak that caused the choke to fail and somehow the float stopped working. Overall, they're craftsmanship is awesome and I'm sticking with them on 1100 replacements.

Andrew
 
Hi 66 fastback,

The simple answer to your question is ... you need to stay with the 1100...

Your car will have the 1.5" carb bore intake log. So you cannot use the later 250ci carbs without an adapter of some kind. Also, your car should have the dual vac dizzy. The 1100 is the only carb designed to support the dual vac. So, the simple solution is to stay with the 1100. If you are in the market for an upgrade, however, a dizzy and carb change can be accomplished for about $200, vs. $180 + shipping for a Pony 1100.

If upgrade is of interest I would recommend the Holley 5200 from Stovebolt ($65), the adapter from Clifford ($78), and a rebuilt 68 - 73 dual advance dizzy with a 10* weight stop from your local parts store ($65). If you go this way I can send pictures of the linkage and air cleaner set-ups.

Enjoy the trip - Steve
 
Yeah, if you don't want to use an adapter you're stuck with using what you have right now. If you decide to upgrade though, I would go with either a Holley 5200 or a Weber 32/36 (and the adapters you can get from:
www.cliffordperformanceshop.com)
 
ok, if upgrading is about the only option. besides the adaptor, what else is needed? Do I need a new dizzy with all the diff carbs? custom linkage?

anyone selling a setup they upgraded from?

James
 
Sorry if this is not a great question, but what is a dizzy and what is its function? I have never heard of it before. From reading some of this it is my understanding that the dizzy is realated to both carbs and ignition? Could someone please clearify this for me? Thanks so much.
 
You'll need an adapter plate for the carb., a linkage kit (you can actually fabricate linkage yourself, but you will probably go crazy trying - much easier to just get some linkage from cliffy), and an air cleaner and mounting plate for your air cleaner (you do not have to have a new distributer)
 
Hi 66 fastback,

Sounds like you are thinking of keeping your options open. I agree that this is the way to go. First, you can use any carb you can figure a way to bolt on with the dual advance dizzy. So, lets start there.

The least expensive option is to install a 1968 - 1973 dual advance dizzy. You can purchase a fully rebuilt unit from your local parts store for about $70 complete with cap, rotor, and points. Order it with a 10* advance weight stop. Be sure it is the dual advance unit (vac and mechanical advance). This is a plug it in, gap the points, set the timing and go deal. It will even work with your 1100 if you remove the spark control valve on the carb (were the vac line is hooked up now) and hook the new vac line to the same port (may need a new fitting to screw into the carb).

The next step up would be to go electronic. Here you have two choices going in. You can upgrade the dual vac dizzy via Pertronix, or install a Ford DuraSpark (DS).

The Pertronix Ignitor II and FlameThrower 2 coil convert the points system in the dual vac dizzy to full electronic. You will end up with a 12 volt coil (good upgrade) and a 45000 volt ignition in a package that can be installed in about 20 minutes. As simple as changing points. This was my choice. Cost for Pertronix system is $105, complete. Add the cost of the dizzy and you are all in for about $175. Nice thing about this one is that you don't have to go all the way at one time. The dizzy will give you all the carb options you need (you can even convert to mechanical only if needed), and the Pertronix upgrade can come later.

The DS is a Ford electronic dizzy introduced in 1974. The DSII, the more desired system, was introduced in 1978. If you go with the DSII you can purchase the entire system at you local parts store for approx $175 with new coil. If you go this way, you won't need the dual advance dizzy discussed above. The DSII is a fully self contained electronic ignition system. Dizzy, controlller, etc. Installation of the dizzy is a simple drop in. Rewiring the ignition system to run the Ford controller will take some time. I understand the install is 2-3 hours if you know your way around the electrical system.

Which one is better. That discusion could go all night and there still wouldn't be a clear winner. Personally, I like the Pertronix.

Carbs. The Clifford adapter that fits the 1.5" intake will accept the Holley 5200 - 26/27 (270cfm progressive carb), the Weber 32/36 (320cfm progressive), or the Weber 38/38 (370cfm syncroness). I like the progressives. Good bottom end torque and mileage with all the flow you can use when you put your foot down. The nice thing about the Holley / Weber series is that you can upgrade to the next unit as you continue to upgrade the perfomance potential of the car without changing the adapter, linkage, or air cleaner as you go. Unless you change to the 1.75" carb bore head, and then you would need the correct adapter. As I said earlier, a Holley 5200 can be acquired from Stovebolt for $65, fully rebuilt. Linkage and air cleaner are the only "build it yourself" items, and these are very simple to develop. I can send pictures and instructions if you go this way.

Long winded. Hope it helps. Have fun with this.
 
where can you get a weber 32/36? could you find one at a junkyard or something? thanks
 
One other option for the 1.5 log head is the carter yf. The carter yf off a late 60's 170 has a 1.5 opening and would be a direct bolt on to the stock adaptor. It should work well with the stock dizzy or d2. I have done this and the carter is a step above the 1100. IMO :D
 
yes you can (weber 32/36 carb), you can also check weber.com or webercarbs.com, or others (search for weber carbs, or weber 32/36 on google). I actually found mine on ebay, bought it brand new!
 
I got a used motorcraft/autolite 1940 and it looks to be a straight bolt on. Not sure the specs or not mut it should fit with very little work. (chock heater line)

James
 
Back
Top