A better intake manifold

Inline6Merc

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If you were to design a new intake manifold for the 200, what would you do? Is the cast intake to small for a good air fuel mixture? What is the one bad thing about it? How would go about making a better one?

LAter,

Curtis
INline6Merc
 
Howdy Curtis:

I'll give your query a shot.

No, the late model 200/250 heads have enough volume for mild street application. For maximum performance, is there ever enough? The one barrel carb, in stock trim, is the limiter there. The port size is about ideal for throttle response/street efficiency. Too big is just as much of a problem as too small, except at high rpms. Too small can be helped with increasing the velocity. Too big is hard to cover up at low rpms. The Cleveland heads are a case in point.

Any time a dose of Air/fuel mixture has to take a right angle turn, it is not good for flow. The resulting turbulence does help to keep the fuel in suspension, but a a cost of velocity. The 1st hard right angle is at the base of the carb flange. And again at each individual port. Intake vacuum or suction helps the turning process, but the log/plenum adds to inprecise fuel distribution. The final turn is less than a right angle, but it is a downward turn. At that point, the individual ports are some of the best in cast iron head design. They are straight and steep. Once past the log, the port to intake valve window is almost a straight shot. V8 head designers are always raising the ports to make the short side turn less severe.

The Austrailian 2V and Argentine heads make significant steps to remedying the sharp, right angel turns. Both use a sweeping, indivicual runner from the plenum under the carb. The long sweeping manifold port runners add volume and help to maintain velocity. The Oz manifold falls short, in my opinion as it orients the carb with the throttle shaft perpendicular to the crankshaft. This adds to fuel distribution problems by directing flow to one half or the other.

The height of the inline six is its own worst enemy. Ideally, If the manifold could sit the carb about 8" higher, the manifold runners could bend down too and lessen the angle of the downward turn. That would require one hellacious hood scoop.

The exhaust is severely impeded by the cast in turn where the exhaust manifold bolts on. Milling off the intake log also solves this exhaust restriction.

As long as you're redoing the head and intake manifold, how about moving the spark plug in, closer to the center of the bore, creating the kidney shaped chamber for swirl, and adding a set of piston with a dish that mirror the chamber shape. That would give the highest ratio of quench to bore.

That's my thoughts. Enjoy!

Adios, David
 
CZLN6":1r1s6mj5 said:
The Austrailian 2V and Argentine heads make significant steps to remedying the sharp, right angel turns. Both use a sweeping, indivicual runner from the plenum under the carb. The long sweeping manifold port runners add volume and help to maintain velocity. The Oz manifold falls short, in my opinion as it orients the carb with the throttle shaft perpendicular to the crankshaft. This adds to fuel distribution problems by directing flow to one half or the other.

That's why I ended up mounting my 4V with the throttle plates parellel to the crank.

Slade
 
Howdy Again All:

I had a couple of after thoughts that Slade's Post brought to mind.

Multi carbs have advantages and disadvantages. But still, on these heads, may be the best for all-out, top-end performance. That's assuming a cam and engine package to support the top-end.

The all-around "best" might be the set-up Slade has come up with. A Holley #8003 (I think) that flows 390 cfm at 1.5 Hg (594 at 3 Hg), with vacuum secondaries, mounted so shafts are parallel to the crank and primary bores are farthest out board. It is infinitely adjustible and very reliable. Parts are easily available. It has relatively small primary bores and a secondary system that is opened on engine vacuum.

The vacuum secondary feature allows it to accomodate any engines performance characteristics, strengths and flaws. ie, if you have a restriction in the head that limits flow to 300 cfm, the vacuum signal goes to the carb and (Properly adjusted) it will only open the secondaries to meet that need.

This carb requires a little more distance from the valve cover than log heads allow. The Oz and Argentine type manifolds can easily accomodate it.

If you're heading for Bonneville or someplace that needs more flow or top-end, an upgrade to a 450 or 600 cfm carb is easily done.

The farther the carb gets from the engine, the more likely some sort of manifold heat will become necessary, especially in the northern climes.

Adios, David
 
thanks for the reply! Very good information! One question tho, if you were to build a intake manifold what would it look like?

Thanks
Later

Curtis
 
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