Aftermarket air cleaner housings

[Anonymous]

What's a good source for chrome air cleaner housings that fit a 1 bbl carb? I don't want one of those dinky 4 inch ones at the local parts store, and my stock housing won't fit the carb I'm going to install as the carb has a bigger opening than the original autolite.

Sedanman

 

[Anonymous]

You could do what I did ...

after the cut off wheel...

a little degreaser and spray paint...

 

[MercuryMarc]

Like 76 Mav, I fabricated an aftermarket Edelbrock Chrome air cleaner to sit on top of my Holley 1940. I replaced my original snorkle type air cleaner on my 1963 Mercury Comet Custom Convertible (powered by a 1969 Falcon 200 cubic inch inline 6 cylinder engine) with a chrome Edlebrock high flow air cleaner. The main problem was that the unit sits on top of the carburator and was too high with the standard base that was supplied in the kit. The inline 6 cylinder 200 cubic inch (as well as the 144 and 170) engine sits relatively high and leaves very little hood clearance with the standard carburator and air cleaner installed. Inspection of the stock air cleaner revealed that the bottom portion of the air cleaner unit is convex in shape so that the air filter on the perimeter of the case actually sits lower than the carburator, much like the edge of an umbrella actually sits lower than the head of the holder. I located a spare air cleaner base and modified it by cutting off about 2 inchers from the edge, making a smaller diameter unit. The chrome air cleaner base plate was originally convex, raising the air cleaner unit well above the carburator. By cutting out the inner portion of the chrome unit and attaching the downsized and concave portion of the stock base, the assembly works very well. The entire unit now clears the hood easily as the air filter edge is below the level of the carburator and is well below the hood.

1. The blue larger diameter base plate on the left is too large to support the smaller diameter chrome air filter unit. A second brown base plate on the right was modified by decreasing the diameter to support the new chrome air cleaner unit.

2. This is the bottom of the air cleaner assembly (an upside down photograph). The downsized concave stock air cleaner base plate is attached below the chrome base plate. The convex (raises the unit above the carb) part of the chrome unit was cut off resulting in a base plate assembly that has the chrome outer section for show, and a concave central section for function. This is the base plate before it was prepped and painted black, but it is not really visible below the chrome top portion.

3. The final product is a unit that looks nice (chrome on top and below the filter) and one that sits low enough to clear the hood. Note that a blow-by tube can be easily routed from the breather cap on the valve cover to the underside of the base plate assembly.

Good Luck!
Marc in SF
63 Comet Ragtop
Dual Cupholders
http://mercurycomet.net

 

[Anonymous]

i picked up a new filter a little while ago...I'm gonna get some pics later again so I'll take one of the filter...but its the Triangle Edelbrock filter that looks like a chrome mesh and says edelbrock on it...uses a solid foam filter...it flows very high cfm...i couldnt use a regular cotton filter cause it was just a bit too restricting...coulda gon K&N, but this was cheaper and looks pretty cool...i can buy new foams for quite cheap and by the time the foams and filter add up to the price of a K&N i would have to have bought a new K&N. It fits really nice on the 1bbl...i was surprised that they made one for the 1bbl cause i was origionally gonna get the one for the 4bbl and adapt it to fit.

 

[Anonymous]

air cleaners are mostely not a big problem , like you see in the above pic , just good thinking and some home tools and your, done.
btw i believe AZcoupe did offer some new aircleaners ?

this is what i did . holley 1940 carb.

 

[Anonymous]

can anyone tell me the opening of the 1bbl air cleaner...so i can shop around

 

[Anonymous]

Check out my avatar for the cool K&N i got for my 1 bbl carb...
Steve-O

 

[Anonymous]

Steve-O that looks a little restricting . I know its a k&n but lawn mowers come with bigger air cleaners stock Still looks cool though 8) .


Do you have any pictures of the whole engin ?

 

[Anonymous]

mercury marc,

That look's cool, but my problem is I don't have the correct base to start with. I have the base for an autolite carb now, and I'm going to a carter yf wich takes a bigger opening. I'm going to order the carb on the way home, and should know in a few days what size opening it has once I get it. Mustang's plus has a new 289 hipo type filter that fit's the autolite 1bbl, but again that won't work on the carter....

Steve-O,

Where did you order your K&N from, and how tall is it? Do they have one in bigger diameter that has the small opening? JC whitney has the same one, Moon racing makes the little chrome ones about that size with louvers so I may do that but I'd prefer bigger diameter to cover up the carb for a cleaner look and better breathing.

Placid warrior,

Edelbrock makes a triangle air filter that fit's the one barrel? How/where did you find it? I found nothing in the Summit catalog that fit's 1bbl.

Sedanman

 

[Anonymous]

I went to K&N's web site. They have links to dealers online in the US. I believe the online dealer I used was called something close to 4airfilters.com. They have a web page with a diagram of a basic air filter, then you simply go through a list of round of filters looking for the flange diameter, flange offset, angle height, air cleaner diameter of the filter you want and then order it on line.
They had a slew of sizes.
If you can't find it let me know.
Yeah it's little, but it works and does not get in the way at all.

Here are two good links I used...
http://www.knfilters.com/universal/universal.htm and
http://www.4filters.com/knfilters.htm

Cheers,
Steve-O

 

[Anonymous]

I got it at Lordco, my local parts store....

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/proflo1000.html

Some 1bbl carbs have a smaller lip though, but it will fit Carter YFA's for sure cause thats what i got...lol.

 

[Anonymous]

According to 76maverick"s comment, the small filter Steve-O is running does not flow well. Is this really true- does a larger diameter filter setup really give that much more airflow than a smaller one on a log head engine that doesen't breathe very well anyhow?

Dave,

Did you get this one?

Pro-Flo Air Cleaner for 2-bbl. carbs with 2-5/8" air horn #1003*

That is for 2bbl but I think it's close to what I need. I'll be picking up my YF tonight- rebuilt unit from Autoline. It's $100, but I don't have time to find a use one and rebuild it.

The other option I'm thinking of is getting the unit that Steve-O has, but taking off the chrome top and using my factory housing lid on top of it to cover up the carb. I don't see why it would not work as the factory lid should seal sitting right on top of the rubber filter top, right?

Chaz-

The opening depends on the carb you have- carter YF and RBS have a bigger opening than the autolite. I'll know the measurment later today

Sedanman

 

[Anonymous]

Has anyone measured hood clearance from the carb air horn flange on a falcon or mustang? This would help in ordering a K&N as they have lots of sizes. If not, I'll have to figure out how to do it myself. Maybe I can get my (female) roomate to crawl in there while I shut the hood- or maybe not

 

[Anonymous]

hmmm...how about puting your airfilter on, just so u get additional hight, and then throw a large lump of clay or playdough on it, the close the hood. that should squash the stuff and allow u to take your reading from the top of the clay/dough to the bottom of the air filter.

 

[Anonymous]

According to 76maverick"s comment, the small filter Steve-O is running does not flow well. Is this really true- does a larger diameter filter setup really give that much more airflow than a smaller one on a log head engine that doesen't breathe very well anyhow?

Dave,

Did you get this one?

Pro-Flo Air Cleaner for 2-bbl. carbs with 2-5/8" air horn #1003*

That is for 2bbl but I think it's close to what I need. I'll be picking up my YF tonight- rebuilt unit from Autoline. It's $100, but I don't have time to find a use one and rebuild it.

The other option I'm thinking of is getting the unit that Steve-O has, but taking off the chrome top and using my factory housing lid on top of it to cover up the carb. I don't see why it would not work as the factory lid should seal sitting right on top of the rubber filter top, right?

Chaz-

The opening depends on the carb you have- carter YF and RBS have a bigger opening than the autolite. I'll know the measurment later today

Sedanman

These are all good ideas. The one about simply using the flange as a base may be best.
I have not noticed any degradation in performance on my car since I changed air filters. I'll run it with and without this weekend to see if I can tell at all.
Steve-O

 

[Anonymous]

I picked up the new YF last night and hope to put it on tomorrow. It is taller than the 1100- by at least an inch, so I may be a bit limited on air cleaner options. That website with all the K&N filter sizes will come in handy once I know my hood clearance. How do the K&N filters anchor to the carb? The info I have says the base is rubber and just fits over the carb. The flange on the YF is only about 1/8 in tall, so having it just stay in place by a tight fit might not be enough.

Somebody asked about flange sizes- the top of the 1100 is 2 3/16, and the YF is 2 9/16 or 66mm OD where the air cleaner would mount. There is a wider flange just below that that it would sit on, but you could not put a bigger diameter housing opening there as the choke housing stick's up about 1/2 in. It is not removable like the 1100 choke is.

I am thoroughly confused now about all the differant flange sizes, though. The YF I ordered- for a 1970 maverick with a 200- has the larger 1 11/16 bore, but the small earlier 2 3/4 bolt flange. Someone else on this forum just got one off the same year maverick with the large bolt pattern! The adaptor I got off a fairmont last weekend ( 3 3/16 manifold bolt flange and 3 in carb bolt flange) is useless for me- must only work with the later holley or maybe the Carter RBS. It's for sale if anyone wants it!

Sedanman

 

[Anonymous]

How do the K&N filters anchor to the carb?

Sedanman

The flange is pliable rubber and has a large hose clamp to secure it above any moving parts on the carb. Mine works real well. As you may have seen on the K&N web site they got a "veritable plethora" of air filter sizes there..in any case, I measured my carb throat and it was about 57 mm OD. So, I went from there, I just closed the hood and measured the distance from the bottom up by looking through the grill. Good luck.
Cheers,
Steve-O

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks much, Steve I got the YF installed last night- for more on that story, see my "Major tuning problems -too much vac. advance???" thread. Nothing's ever easy :roll: I'll get back to the filter when I get the bigger problem resolved.......

Thor

 

[Anonymous]

Just FYI, carb to hood clearances-

with the carter YF on my falcon, there is 3 3/8 from the flange to the hood at the very center, so the 3.5 in tall housing like Steve-O is using will not work without some massaging, and I will not be able to use that filter with the stock housing lid on top.

If I were to run a 12 in air cleaner (like the stock one) on the YF, it cannot be any taller than 2 7/8 in (from the bottom flange) tall due to the hood sloping down. The housing itself would have to be 2 7/8 tall at the most as the choke housing stick's up 5/8 so you need a flange at least that tall.

Another way to look at it- the carb flange is 6 1/8 in above the log, the hood (at the center of the carb) is 9 1/2 in above the log.

Those with autolite carbs will have more clearance as they are not as tall as the YF, but mustangers may have less clearance due to the body being lower on the frame. But don't take my work for it- measure it !I will not be held respsonsible for other people's fittament issues- you have been warned I'll report back when I have a housing chosen and on the car.

Thor

 

[Anonymous]

the edelbrock filter is only 3" tall if u cant find a good performance filter