All Small Six Alternatives to Vintage Inlines Head??

[MykeNytemare]

As the title states, are there any real alternatives to the Vintage Inlines head that doesn't seem to be made/available anymore?

I see the large log threads/discussions but was wondering if there are other head/intake alternatives (possibly without the shared 3/4 port or uneven runners).

Really want to know whats out there before I decide to pick up an old Mustang with a 200 as a project.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Cox Custom Mechanical]

Only alternative is, removing the log and making a flange for a intake manifold, Australian crossflow head, Argentinean aftermarket head or a second hand Classic Inlines head.

I can help with the first 2 options if you are interested.

 

[bmbm40]

As the title states, are there any real alternatives to the Vintage Inlines head that doesn't seem to be made/available anymore?

I see the large log threads/discussions but was wondering if there are other head/intake alternatives (possibly without the shared 3/4 port or uneven runners).

Really want to know whats out there before I decide to pick up an old Mustang with a 200 as a project.

Thanks in advance!

Try car-part.com, wrecking yards and craigslist. I learned early on to look for and collect parts. If you buy a running Mustang you can drive it untill you get the parts you want.

 

[chad]

it does not sound as if you want an i6?

It is no more difficult, it’s just not the front end (or after work) power I believe you seek.

 

[78_200_C4]

The 66 California emission Mustang 200 ran great without a Vintage Inline's head.
Of course it did not have a Load'O'Matic carb or distributor.
My wife drove her 66 California emission Mustang 200 for 14 years.
It would go up the hill to Reno from the Sacramento area and only down shift once if we kept the I-80 speed up to 75-80 mph with the C4 + 2.80 gears.
My 78 200 runs great without a Vintage Inline's head.
I could get arrested for speeding on I-80 without even shifting to 3rd or 3rd over.
It will do around 90 mph in 2nd over.

 

[chad]

2 mo ago may B too long for a reply back But we can all ways discuss among ourselves
the real interest remains here anyway~

if Mr Cox, above, did not mention it, the Oz 250 2v iron head altho
becoming more rare (40/60 yrs old) will fit w/o the plate the x-flow needs.

Instead of throwing suggestions, B more specific of what U seek. The more
detail ina Q the more ina reply. Math isa pretty specific language & can wrk here, Gotta start w/U tho...

 

[78_200_C4]

I have read that the direct 2V conversion will perform very close to that of the Oz 250 2V iron head which I believe has 3/8" valve stems.

 

[Cox Custom Mechanical]

I have read that the direct 2V conversion will perform very close to that of the Oz 250 2V iron head which I believe has 3/8" valve stems.

You would have to use a large log head and do a bit of porting to get close to a stock 2v.

 

[chad]

post 7 & 8:
plez see the chart in Tech Archive
displaying 5 or so different heads
offa Mike’s flow bench. That seems
a logical way to compare (again math
rather than 'seat of the pants') seems like
the way to go with this Q.
AND
I think many here have guessed right. I just
cant go to the archive for U (no permissions w/
the new ’24 supporter policy). Go C “How close"

 

[78_200_C4]

You would have to use a large log head and do a bit of porting to get close to a stock 2v.

Using a large log head is a given.
The direct 2V conversion is done on the large log head preferable a large log head like the D7 head with it's flat top.
My direct 2V conversion vs the stock OZ 2V head info is from searching + reading old posts on fordsix.com

 

[Cox Custom Mechanical]

Using a large log head is a given.
The direct 2V conversion is done on the large log head preferable a large log head like the D7 head with it's flat top.
My direct 2V conversion vs the stock OZ 2V head info is from searching + reading old posts on fordsix.com

I've done quiet a bit of flow bench and development work with these heads, both log, modified log and 2V. Some of the info online is accurate some is not. Flow numbers are only part of the equation as well, a lot of people get wrapped up in CFM and its not the whole story.

I have a medium log (largest Australian log) head with a ton of work a large single carb and it is outflowed by a stock 2V(with an intake manifold on) yet it makes a lot more torque but the hp drops off earlier than the 2v. But drivability wise its much nicer to drive and give a squirt on the street.

If you are looking for all out performance, watch this space as there will be some new parts coming out for the small 6 next year made in Australia.

 

[78_200_C4]

I've done quiet a bit of flow bench and development work with these heads, both log, modified log and 2V. Some of the info online is accurate some is not. Flow numbers are only part of the equation as well, a lot of people get wrapped up in CFM and its not the whole story.

I have a medium log (largest Australian log) head with a ton of work a large single carb and it is outflowed by a stock 2V(with an intake manifold on) yet it makes a lot more torque but the hp drops off earlier than the 2v. But drivability wise its much nicer to drive and give a squirt on the street.

If you are looking for all out performance, watch this space as there will be some new parts coming out for the small 6 next year made in Australia.

I am happier than hell with the way my D7 enlarged intake bore log head 200 runs.
It hauls ass with six forward gears which keep the RPM up.
Serious high starter Argentine ACTC Falcon six race cars use 6 speeds for a reason.
Six gears are a blast at part or full throttle.

 

[chad]

me too (w/the RBS and “M” head 250).
As said, the tq is there.
I think the monojet is the only bigger 1v
readily available round me. Seems pretty
tall so did not try it. I may see what I got
measure as it’s more than I thought I’d have.
The fined carb hat clears the bronk's hood
cross bracings

 

[bmbm40]

As the title states, are there any real alternatives to the Vintage Inlines head that doesn't seem to be made/available anymore?

I see the large log threads/discussions but was wondering if there are other head/intake alternatives (possibly without the shared 3/4 port or uneven runners).

Really want to know whats out there before I decide to pick up an old Mustang with a 200 as a project.

Thanks in advance!

If you see a Mustang you really like best to buy it because not that many available.
I found one last year that already had several upgrades plus the exterior color I wanted and did not buy, why I don't know, and regretted since.

 

[chad]

often I think ofa fleet: a chero, my bronk anda p/u van or the van ought to do it...
May B I could use a break & bend up some alu for the pick up's ‘topper’ like the -0-
window van. Just a triangle behind the passenger’s head as seen in the ‘club wagon').

 

[clochard68]

If you are looking for all out performance, watch this space as there will be some new parts coming out for the small 6 next year made in Australia.

I am curious what those parts are going to be, will keep an eye out for sure!

 

[funkaholik]

I hope this is adding to, and not hijacking, this thread.

I found a guy selling 3 different Ford six heads. I can decode them but what I don’t know is log size, valve size, and compression chamber cc’s. Is there a chart somewhere that has all that info so I don’t have to bother you guys every time I find a head for sale? I searched but couldn’t find anything.

For starters, here are the casting numbers of the 3 heads he has:

C3DE-6090-D
C7DE-6090-A
E0BE-6090-BB

 

[chad]

the last is desriable as E = ‘the late model'.
Yes, there’s resources right here.

Go to the “Tech Archive” top of this page.
U can learn how to ID by castings,
C the chart U mentioned on log volumn, etc. If not

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something bubba left us B4 departing the planet (for heaven if U ask me - due to his work here and easy spirit).
I’ll not go into it as its there somewhere E0BE-6090-BB (C = 60s; D=‘70s, E=?’78 /83, etc) & alota
typing for ol arthritis hands here... AND...

Yes it is hyjacking. Take a look @ what I left ya.
Come back w/Qs ina new thread ?

 

[Wayne clark]

I don't know how old this post is but thought I would post my 2 cents worth .
First off much as everyone want a VI alumn head it ain't happening right now . Maybe you will luck up & find one , everyone I see posted is snapped up allmost soon as.it's posted .
The answer is search for someone who can import a 221 head from Argentina . Bolts straight on . Get both manifolds aa they are specific .
If your looking for cheap put a Vintage Inline 2x1 adapter on it & run it . I've ran a 2300 Sniper on my small log headed 200 for 6 years now works great . Again if your looking for cheap stick with the 1 barrel carb. Or a 2 barrel carb .
You want to check out the 221 heads look for Josie Alvarez on the Vintage 6 Mustang Facebook page .he ain't no Scammer. He can also hook you up with a NICE Ford Raceing finned alumn valve cover.
While your looking there check out Aron Cox's 250 turbo powered 66 with a 221 head . Not to shabby for a all most 500 HP small 6 . The parts are out there to make power with a small 6 it just cost MONEY .
Me personally I think the 2300 Sniper & the Paxton supercharger I put on my 67 Vert last June a year ago has been the best money I've spent on my eng . My ported alumn head I don't know about yet . I been assing around about putting it on this last 6 years .

 

[chad]

“...don't know how old this post is..."
above shows ‘this Summer"
Thanks Wc, you’ve all ways had good info/questions to share/ask~
More here, yet again.