All Small Six Anyone tried this electronic distributor?

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funkaholik

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I'm looking for a reasonably simple, stockish-looking, and affordable distributor upgrade. This unit on eBay looks like it checks all those boxes, and even includes a coil and wires. If I don't put the silly hat on top of the cap, it would look reasonably stock.

I'm wondering if anyone here has tried this unit, and if so, what their feedback is.

Thanks!
 
I see. Thanks for the link. That does sound like a solid upgrade. Shipping to California would be prohibitive, I imagine.
 
@funkaholik - I do not see a link or other info for the specific distributor you are asking about? It would be good to be specific, so we do not start another grumpy "Spark Wars". :sneaky:
 
Thats no HEI. The real HEI has the coil built into the cap.
Plus it will need to be recurved for your build.
Get one of my DS11's
They are listed in the small six for sale section of this forum. Bill wsa111
 
Thats no HEI. The real HEI has the coil built into the cap.
Plus it will need to be recurved for your build.
Get one of my DS11's
They are listed in the small six for sale section of this forum. Bill wsa111

I actually don't like the look of the coil-in-cap HEI, DUI, or even the wide cap Duraspark units. As I mentioned in the initial post, I'd prefer something that looks "stock-ish". Is there a small cap Duraspark distributor? And if so, do I need an external control box to run it? Or are they pretty much plug and play?
 
HEI is High Energy Ignition, and while trademarked by GM, it now describes any system using a low-ohm coil for greater spark energy and electronic dwell control. A feature of these is no inline coil resistor wire (pink in Fords) or ballast required, with the module controlling coil current instead. The term includes coils under either 1-ohm or 0.7-ohm, depending on who you ask. This is the "HEI" designation, and it likely uses a GM HEI 4-pin module, but could also be a Bosch BIM 024 equivalent. Either module type is robust, even most clones.

Bosch 024 4-pin module.jpg

HEI terminology aside, the housing appears to roughly be an MSD Pro-Billet clone with 2-screw cap. Without looking inside we can't know if it is a clone internally or not - but by the cap height it probably is similar. My view on this is that it's an import copy of one or more systems, and has the typical pros and cons of them. It's a crap-shoot. Could be awesome, or trash, or in-between. From what I've seen, the price means nothing relative to quality. It is listed at roughly half the price of an MSD Pro-Billet equivalent, but with fewer springs and bushings, and perhaps limited or no instructions, warranty, or support.

If it makes you feel better, the MSD (if that's the type it is) uses Ford DuraSpark triggering mixed with a GM-style advance mechanism (below) that is easier to access for tuning. If you get one, I'd suggest confirming the return policy, so you have options if quality or fit is a no-go. Post-up if you get one! :cool:

[EDIT] Looking at the seller's other stuff, he is selling the big cap HEI at about 4x the price of others. This could be because his are better, or he has more bills to pay and whats you to pay them. :ROFLMAO: Without more info or an example, I wouldn't be able to tell.

MSD Pro-Billet internals.jpg
 
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That is the Bosch model widely used here in Bosch dizzy for Ford GMH and Chrysler and many localy made Japanese cars. It very reliable, and cheap, I have one in my car, never any problem.
 
@aussie7mains - Can you post images or info links for the Bosch you mention? I thought they had spring clips for the cap, not MSD-style screws.

Not that this is either, and could be anything inside, or the same and with different quality. All high-quality parts can be assembled 0.010" differently for a fail. Typically, an existing distributor design is modified to fit a different engine only in the lower housing, shaft and gear dimensions. This is how the GM HEI 'big cap' versions were created for non-GM engines. Everything above the block interface is equivalent for all versions, but could just as easily be different. 🤷‍♂️

[EDIT] This is a clone using the Bosch 024 module pictured earlier, in the hump on the right side. Is this the "Bosch" type you are referring-to?
Bosch 024 distributor clone.jpg
 
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I actually don't like the look of the coil-in-cap HEI, DUI, or even the wide cap Duraspark units. As I mentioned in the initial post, I'd prefer something that looks "stock-ish". Is there a small cap Duraspark distributor? And if so, do I need an external control box to run it? Or are they pretty much plug and play?
Just be careful, everything in the pic is made in China. The coil is suspicious, looks like a painted-over cheap coil. AND- the picture in the ebay add shows a V8 distributor- unless they stuck a V8 cap on a six cylinder dist. That right there would cause me to look elsewhere.
If you like your stock look, and want a hot spark while keeping your stock points distributor, the very best solution for a hot spark and very long points life is to add a Ford TFI module to the points ignition. I run two daily drivers with this, and it's the best of both worlds- stock distributor, high energy spark.
 
Search this site, you will find plenty of people fighting ignition problems. Don’t go cheap, get a known good product or keep the one you got, maybe upgrade to petronix if not already done. Save money elsewhere 👍
 
@aussie7mains - Can you post images or info links for the Bosch you mention? I thought they had spring clips for the cap, not MSD-style screws.

Not that this is either, and could be anything inside, or the same and with different quality. All high-quality parts can be assembled 0.010" differently for a fail. Typically, an existing distributor design is modified to fit a different engine only in the lower housing, shaft and gear dimensions. This is how the GM HEI 'big cap' versions were created for non-GM engines. Everything above the block interface is equivalent for all versions, but could just as easily be different. 🤷‍♂️

[EDIT] This is a clone using the Bosch 024 module pictured earlier, in the hump on the right side. Is this the "Bosch" type you are referring-to?
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Looks a about right with module on the side, V8 one.
 
I venture to say most here do not like the DUI or HEI dizzy

“...simple, stockish-looking, and affordable distributor upgrade...."
they are the above w/certain provisions, like who’s lookin? The DUI is not affordable and has durability issues (4 me).

I like a pure DSII if 1964+ block and no LOM/SCV system (+’68 carb). Some replace the ‘box’ with the gm4pin under the dash or a bit obscured under the hood. My DSII would go that way if done again. Interested? ask more Qs~
 
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