cant find flywheel 200ci

[sodak_STANG]

just wondering if some1 has a flywheel for a 1965 i6 200ci with a 3speed manual or any idea how to get it balanced again. i really dont kno to much about engines iwas just told it wasnt balanced. also if i wantd to drive it until its fixed will it hurt anything else on the engine :help:

 

[FalconSedanDelivery]

Shouldn't need balanced all the Six's are internal , sounds like someone is misinformed , if its vibrating The Clutch could be bad or a few other possibilities , but its not the Flywheel

 

[rbohm]

8) i assume that you are getting a bad vibration when you are launching the car. if this is the case then you are experiencing what is know as clutch chatter. this is caused by a number of issues, bad pressure plate, bad engine/transmission mounts, clutch linkage issues, bad clutch disc, bad pilot bushing coupled with a bad transmission input shaft bearing, a rough flywheel friction surface, poor clutch technique.

 

[sodak_STANG]

ok thats a relief now do you think i could fix the problem with a cluch rebuild kit or is the kit missing some of the couldbe problem parts. im posative i have good clutch technique i learned to drive with a manual an wouldnt have my cars any other way. thank u guys (or girls) for the advise

 

[sodak_STANG]

ok i was wrong i guess it has a burned up surface with a few cracks as well. can i weld the cracks and grind it smooth or will that screw up the balancing system

 

[FalconSedanDelivery]

IF the cracks are too deep, that they cant be ground /resurfaced , you will need a flywheel ( the factory flywheel is cast iron and cant be welded ) do you have the flat 9 inch clutch setup our the step 8.5 style

 

[rocklord]

Since you have a 65, I'm assuming you have the 8.5" stepped flywheel.

If you can resurface the flywheel, remember to have the machinist turn the area where the pressure plate bolts to down the same amount. If the depth of the step is more than 1-inch deep, your new pressure plate won't clamp down on the clutch plate with enough force and it may chatter.

Ask me how I know.

 

[Anlushac11]

This is the guys I bought my flywheel from.

I bought one for a 1967 200 with 3.03. Was in good condition.

 

[rbohm]

ok i was wrong i guess it has a burned up surface with a few cracks as well. can i weld the cracks and grind it smooth or will that screw up the balancing system

8) more than likely you dont have any cracks in the flywheel surface, but rather heat checking. heat checks look like cracks, just not very deep. have the flywheel resurfaced as indicated above.

 

[Anlushac11]

Forgot to add link.

http://www.tomsbroncoparts.com/

 

[sodak_STANG]

thank u guys i am going to have it resurfaced and if they for some reason say they cant when they see it that toms bronco place has one out of an 66-68 bronco. what kind of specs do i have to match to make sure its the right one

 

[Anlushac11]

There are two flywheel types, the recessed surface and the normal one. You need to make sure which one you have because they will ask you.

I think you can use either one, you just need to get correct replacement frictionmto match it.

 

[rocklord]

There are two flywheel types, the recessed surface and the normal one. You need to make sure which one you have because they will ask you.

I think you can use either one, you just need to get correct replacement friction to match it.

I disagree that he can use either flywheel. If the 65 drivetrain is original, then it has the 8.5" stepped flywheel with the 2.77 bellhousing.
The 65 engine does not have the dual pattern block, so the later 9-inch flywheel and matching bellhousing won't work.

 

[rbohm]

There are two flywheel types, the recessed surface and the normal one. You need to make sure which one you have because they will ask you.

I think you can use either one, you just need to get correct replacement friction to match it.

I disagree that he can use either flywheel. If the 65 drivetrain is original, then it has the 8.5" stepped flywheel with the 2.77 bellhousing.
The 65 engine does not have the dual pattern block, so the later 9-inch flywheel and matching bellhousing won't work.

8) the only difference i have found in the bell housings is that the later bell has the upper two bolts in a slightly higher location. everything else is in the same location, including the starter as far as i can tell. which means he should be able to use the later flat flywheel instead of the earlier recessed flywheel.

 

[FALCONAROUND]

Double triple check your pilot bearing or bushing and replace it with a bearing. The bronze bushings can wear funny and cause a vibration also.

 

[Frankenstang]

There are two flywheel types, the recessed surface and the normal one. You need to make sure which one you have because they will ask you.

I think you can use either one, you just need to get correct replacement friction to match it.

I disagree that he can use either flywheel. If the 65 drivetrain is original, then it has the 8.5" stepped flywheel with the 2.77 bellhousing.
The 65 engine does not have the dual pattern block, so the later 9-inch flywheel and matching bellhousing won't work.

8) the only difference i have found in the bell housings is that the later bell has the upper two bolts in a slightly higher location. everything else is in the same location, including the starter as far as i can tell. which means he should be able to use the later flat flywheel instead of the earlier recessed flywheel.

He might (note*) be able to make the later ('67+) or the ('66 only) BH fit the '65 non dual pattern block, but AFAIK the 9in flat flywheel and corresponding pressure plate and clutch set will not fit inside the smaller 2.77 ('65 and earlier) BH...not enough clearance.

EDIT: (note*) This could well be too tough or not worth the effort as the true non dual pattern '65 and earlier blocks don't have the boss area to convert to a dual pattern so that area would have to be welded/built back out then tapped.

'65 non dual pattern

'66 and later dual pattern
Although I have heard of some (very few?) later '65s that carried the dual pattern

 

[sodak_STANG]

ok guys i understand kinda what ur saying but im not too familiar with the technicals of my car but my dad has dug in a to it quite a bit more than i have so im gonna head up to his place sometime this weekend and log him onto my acct so he can see what you guys have to say and maybe hell get more out of your input than i can comprehend

 

[shetland]

Been there done that. If you have the small 8.5 recessed flywheel you need to stick with that. The flat 9" will not work. it is to big and the starter will not line up correctly. 8.5 has 132 teeth and the 9" has 156. To use the 9" you need the larger bell housing and later dual bolt pattern 66 block.
If the cracks are small they are heat stress and can be resurfaced. take it to a machine shop and they should be able to tell you. If the cracks are large the flywheel is now an anchor. Unfortunately the recessed 8.5" are not easy to find , fortunately I have 2 of them .
Where are you located? I am in Arizona.
Dale