Carb for a 170 in a 61 Comet

pedal2themetal45

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HI ALL
First Post here.
I'm looking to upgrade the 170 just a little bit.. Header,and carb and bigger exhugst, and moving the shifter to the floor. just wanting a little more grunt.. Its going to be my gas misser sort of (going to leave the block stock).. I have the 466 in the IH for fun and performance.. Is the 32/26 weber to much for a stock block 170 with the intake that is attached to the head..
thanks for all replys.
Tim :USA:
 
The 32/36 is a great fitment for a 170. There is a good valve, intake port and carb area balance. The engine doesn't mind a good rev. A 75 hp net 1600 cc (97 cube) OHC Euro Cortinas ran this 32/36 carb for many years. It's just an issue of jetting.


I'd say with the right jetting on an as stock engine with a header, there is a good 100 hp there
 
Agreed. The 32/36 is progressive so you have the benefit of a iV carb for torque and milage until you put your foot in it. At WOT you have 270cfm available. With the header and exhaust you will feel the dif.

There are a couple of issues. What year engine do you have? What carb are you running now. Do you have the vac advance ONLY distributor? Need to go here before you start.

Steve
 
Thanks xecute and steve
Its the orginal 61- 170 lots of miles on it (I think). Smokes some out the down tube but doesn't use any oil to speak of, no smoke out the exghust.. It has the stock 1 b. carb on it ( I'm thinking holly).. and the head with the intake attached.. The guy I got it from just pulled the head and reseated the valves said they look good. The motor runs good no rattles or noise's in it. It did develop a noise when I let the oil go to long and it made the rockers rattle but I changed the oil and that quit.
Stock Dizzy,, HUMM, not sure about the vacuum advance. The more it think about it it is vacuum advance. I'll look tonight for sure. If I can find it I do have an extra dura spark I replaced out of the 466 needs rebuilt I have seen post of people useing the dura spark but is it from a BB or just a newer one?
It also have the vacuum wipers can I add a vacuum can to it to help supplie vacuum so the wipers don't slow as bad when I give it gas?
thanks
Tim
 
If you replace your carburetor, I'd like to buy your old Holley. Mine was busted so I have one from a 60 144 on my 170 right now. You will have to replace your distributor with a carb swap. The Holley has ported vacuum for a sensitive vacuum advance on the distributor.

Steve
 
OK,

The good news, the Weber 32/36 and the Holley 5200 (or Holley-Weber) are the same carb. The 5200 was used on a number of Fords as well as Chevrolet and Chrysler products. The early 1970's pre-electronic mixture control carbs are best. A number of people who have made this change purchased their 5200 from Stovebolt (www.stoveboltengineco.com). They sell a rebuilt 5200 for $65. I have one, very happy with it. As important, Tom (owner) is a excellent resource if you have questions about installation or tuning. Best way to accomplish this conversion is with an adapter. You can use a generic version, available from Stovebolt and others, or the Clifford Performance adapter. I strongly recommend the Clifford unit for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that it was designed to be used for this specific application. See the Holley Weber Tech article in the tech section of this sight for a good overview.

The issues. You will have to come up with a linkage solution. As I am not familiar with the stock Comet so I can't make a recomendation, however, the Mustang was not hard to fab. Bigger issue, the early 170 engine used a vac advance only distributor, the Load-o-matic, that is tied to the stock Holley / Autolite carbs via a spark control valve in the side of the carb. This value controls the vac applied to the advance diaphram on the dizzy so as to advance and/or retard the timing based on engine load. The Holley-Weber carb will not support this dizzy. The solution is to change to a dual advance unit (1968-1973), or the DuraSpark. Unfortunately, the distributor drive hole in the pre 1964 engine is to small for the later dizzy. I do not know of a solution for this problem. If the Load-o-matic will run off of "ported" or "manifold" vac alone you could go that route. Before I spent the money on the carb and adapter I would try running the car with a direct ported, and a direct manifold source and see if it will work for you. If not, you need to stay with what you have, or upgrade to a 200 I6 autolite, which has the spark control feature ( this dizzy carb combo was used thru 1967).

Hope this is helpful - Steve
 
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