Decisions, Decisions, Decisions

[Anonymous]

Hey all,

I need some help making a decision.

I can get a Versailles with 302, C-4, 9" rear--it was running but has been in a guys back yard for a year. At first he told me 400 would take it but now he's telling me that was just for the rear. He wants 600 for the complete car minus the intake and carb. He says he put them on new.

I like the idea of a 9" rear with disc brakes but I've found out the lower tie rod hole in the front spindle is the wrong size. I thought they were the same as the Granada but according to the Mustang Plus web site they are not.

I could get the whole car and just transfer over the drive train 302, C-4, 9' rear and get some granda spindles to complete the swap or---

I found an 8" from a 70 coupe. It also has the front spindles for a drum brake set-up. He want 350 for these and an late 70's 200 complete minus carb.

I like my 6 and I know you guys are going to tell me to stick with it but what is really the best choice. Will the V-8 disc, disc set-up greatly improve the value of my car over the 6 with a T-5 and 8" with 5 lug wheels.

I can get all the performance parts from a close friend, co-worker and fellow forum member 68coupe for my 6. He's going the V-8 route.

Undecided,

GT200Z

 

[CoupeBoy]

If you decide to get the Versailles you will need some adapters from Mustang Steve
http://www.mustangsteve.com/tierodbushings.html

If you search around this site for a while you will find rear axle dimensions to see if the rearend will work for you.

You should let us know what year/make/model your car is, others may have suggestions. You cannot just bolt a bent 8 in where a straight six once resided you will have to change the steering setup plus more (there are tons of I6 to V8 swaps on the web). What condition are the parts in? If you have to rebuild them all its going to cost a good chunk of change. The car could be a good deal, but other things to think about is that a member here 'degins' sells new spindles with complete disc brake setups for around 450$ (somebody correct me if that is wrong) and if you could locate a small bearing 8" that is the right width for your car, you could put on a rear disc brake setup, my local wrecking yard will sell me the complete rear disc brake setup from a '99 explorer for 60$. Try not to get enamored with factory parts.

Make sure you are doing the swap for the right reason. My '68 with 289/C4 8" rearend with 3.00 gears gets about 15mpg on a good day. It could be because of my driving, or the rearaxle is out of alignment (how else would you explain that only the pass rear tire is balding?)

-ron

 

[Asa]

do what you want man, we're a six site, but we realize that some people just want the V8

what year car do you have? the '67 and up LCAs have the same size hole for the spindle, i didn't need the adapters

 

[Anonymous]

CoupeBoy,

Hi, it's a 68 so the tie rods fit the Granada/Monarch/Versailles spindles however the Versailles spindles have a larger LCA hole than the Granada or Monarch or unfortunately the 68 Mustang so the Versailles spindles won't work on a Mustang without serious modifications.

In 68 the steering and spindles were the same as the V-8 cars they just had four lug hubs and itty bitty brake drums.

You never know what you'll get when you buy used parts but the guy with the Versailles is a co-worker and I believe he's trustworthy. He told me the car ran fine when he parked it after a wreck he just never got around to fixing it because of other projects. I have heard it run with gas poured into the carb. I assume the tranny/rear would also be good with a change of fluid and maybe replacing seals.

asa67_stang,

The problem is I don't really know what I want. Are you using Versailles front spindles on your car? I got the info about the difference from Mustang Plus.

I enjoy the 6 and am having a ball working on it. Was planning planning a restromod with a street 6.

However, if the V-8 is going to significantly increase the value of the car maybe that's the way I should go. I don't have anything against American V-8 power, it rocks, I was just enjoying something different. The guy that got me into this 6 addiction 68coupe is going V-8. I can get lots of parts for the six from him.

GT200Z

 

[Asa]

i'm using Granada spindles
but honestly i wouldn't trust much of anything that i heard from Mustangs Plus, i've had bad experiences with them repeatedly so i have trouble trusting what they say

you might be on the opposite end of the spectrum though

 

[LaGrasta]

Personally, that is a deal and I'd just swap the whole drive train. You can't go wrong with a set-up like that. You'll have a ton of power, both going and stopping and even great milage.

 

[Anonymous]

just a tip . there are aluminium hubs , that fit a 6 cyl spindel but got the V8 pattern and 5 bolt .

verry easy setup , no linkage changing , no spindel removing and possible damage the ball joints , no new alignmend to do , no hasseling arround , just unbolt the complete drum setup and put the alu hub onto the spindel

the hubs adapt 94> mustang rotors and callipers and come with the wright bracket for these setups. choise is the 1 piston calliper ore pbs 2 piston aluminium calliper.

for the rear there also the 94> mustang rotors and the callipers with the hand brake setup , comes also with a special bracket to attach the callipers.

rear setup example.

front alu hub and calliper onto the spindel.

the94> rotors slotted and drilled and geel gepassiviseerd.with the brackets.

option is the 2 piston aluminium calliper from a 94> mustang cobra.

as you see there are many parts to make a swap verry easy, save money and time and verry fast to instal because for the front you have to onbolt only the drums .

 

[200cid]

as you see there are many parts to make a swap verry easy, save money and time and verry fast to instal because for the front you have to onbolt only the drums .

This is new info to me!! Have you updated your parts that you sell or what? I thought i allways have to change spindles when changing from 4- to 5-lug setup. So all i need is the alu-hub to fit the discs? GREAT!