Exhaust Leak I just cant figure out

pookster

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I got this 65 mustang with a 200 in it. She runs great. Starts up right as you turn the key, and this is 2 years after just sitting in the garage. But there is one problem. I have an exhaust leak, not just some minor noise or leak you can hear, but a loud air blows from the 6th cylinder, it also seems like it is coming from the lower bolt, but I am not sure. You put your hand back there and you can really feel the leak, puffing against your hand. So I thought it was the gasket. Replaced it. No success. So I decided to get my exhaust manifold milled flat. No success. So I took it off one final time and really gooped on the ultra copper gasket sealer with the gasket. No success. And this last time I looked around for cracks, but it looks all good, also the head "seems" flat. I say "seems" because I have limited time and resources, and I left the head on I just tried looking around from that angle. So I am wondering what are some of your thoughts? Is it the head? Is it the manifold. What do I do to get this problem fixed?
 
Do you have all the mounting bolts in there? I forget the exact number. I would say you're missing one, but it sounds too big of a problem to be just 1.

...Maybe you've got a crack in the head?
 
Have you tried to find the noise using a 3 foot length of hose with one end to your ear and the other moved the around the engine until you find the leak? Worked better for me for vacuum and exhaust leaks.
 
Sounds more like a blown head gasket.

Do a leak down test or even a compression test to rule that out.

An exhaust leak normally isn't really that loud. It just has a kinda of "ticking" sound. A blown head gasket is much louder with a lot of air flow.

Will
 
Does10s":3kvgzax5 said:
Sounds more like a blown head gasket.

Do a leak down test or even a compression test to rule that out.

An exhaust leak normally isn't really that loud. It just has a kinda of "ticking" sound. A blown head gasket is much louder with a lot of air flow.

Will

Exactly. The gasket is very thin there between the outside world and the cylinder. I blew mine out on the #1 cyl and went through the same circus you currently are.
 
Yep. I had an even more insidious one: the head gasket was blown out at #4. The air blew right on the back of the manifold and down the downpipe, and I thought it was the donut gasket for the longest time. I must have had that thing off a hundred times, filing away at the donut or putting sealer or new manifold gaskets on. Couldn't ever find soot on the manifold gasket, that's the giveaway.

The car ran fine, didn't skip or anything. It had so little power anyways that I didn't notice one cylinder venting to atmosphere!
 
Bort62":2axzbdbg said:
Does10s":2axzbdbg said:
Sounds more like a blown head gasket.

Do a leak down test or even a compression test to rule that out.

An exhaust leak normally isn't really that loud. It just has a kinda of "ticking" sound. A blown head gasket is much louder with a lot of air flow.

Will

Exactly. The gasket is very thin there between the outside world and the cylinder. I blew mine out on the #1 cyl and went through the same circus you currently are.

Yep, it would sound like a very loud popping... i mean LOUD. And even more sure if you feel the air blowing towards the firewall (for the thin rear of #6 to have blown).
 
Sounds like you guys are describing exactly what I am hearing. It is very loud with a lot of air flow. So it looks like I am going to have to pull off my head and replace the head gasket. After I do a compression test. BTW what should the compression be and would the leak make it a huge drop in compression? or just a couple of pounds?
 
You'll notice a compression loss by the significant difference that one or two cylinders show, compared to the rest.

For most of the motor, I'd expect consistent results (within 10-15 pounds of each other) in the range of 110-180 PSI. That overall range is large because of the great possibilities for original compression ratio.

Regards, Adam.
 
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