FORD 94 CARBS

[BCOWANWHEELS]

I,VE HAD THESE 2 ford 94 carbs for a good number of years so I,am thinking about using them on my 250 engine build. there 1 1/4 inch bore carbs,there 2bbls each. has anybody run these ? I,d post pictures but I cant for some reason
bob

 

[CNC-Dude]

Sharing pics on a forum is a little different than emailing pics to people in an email. You have to use a picture hosting website to display pictures on forums. Imageshack or Photobucket are the ones i use, but there are a lot of others to choose from. I think the Ford 94's you are talking about are similar to the old Stromberg carbs used in many multi-carb hotrods back in the 40's, 50's and 60's. Are those the ones your talking about?

 

[BCOWANWHEELS]

YES those are the ones. as far as image hosting its too much trouble for me to go thru. no other web sites I go to do this, oh well

 

[CNC-Dude]

I've never used them, but they seemed to be the "hot ticket" back in the day. How were you going to mount them to the log head?

 

[Econoline]

YES those are the ones. as far as image hosting its too much trouble for me to go thru. no other web sites I go to do this, oh well

The reason it's done the way it is here and many other group forums is b/c it's very expensive to host the bandwidth required when the forum hosts and serves all the images. Then ad's are needed to pay for it all, excessive donations, class systems develops mgmt etc. It's much better this way, there are alot of free ways to host/link your own images to get the help you need from your com padres

 

[CCs95GT]

another reason to use a hosting site is you can access the pics from any computer you might be on or mobile device (assuming there's an app)

 

[BCOWANWHEELS]

got ya. no problems here.ts juust new to me. you-all know whats best. please take no offence ok ?
bob

 

[Econoline]

None taken Welcome to the forum!

 

[xctasy]

Nice idea. There is a really nice brasied on set up by one user on japoly journal.

twin 97 Stromberg small Ford 200 six or twin Holley 94 small Ford 200 six.

In a digged drag racer, IIRC. By TOYMAKER.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/thre ... zy.306452/

 

[chad]

97 & 94, that's new on me too.
Nother vote on some 1 postin pic.

(glad U guys chose the "no advert." route for all the pre-recorded reasons. glad yer there for me).

 

[BCOWANWHEELS]

the 94 carbs are the cheapest route to more carburation.

 

[xctasy]

A 2300 Hlley 2-bbl 350 or 500, or 2100 Autolite /2150 Motorcraft or Rochester 2CG series rates 60% more flow.


Sucess is based on finding a matching set that are not suffering throttle shaft wear. They are kinda tall, BUT YOU FIND 'EM EVERYWHERE!


Brand new repro, they are $460 each.


It used to be a social function swap meeting these carbs. The 94s and 97s look like the old 1941-1953 Holley 847 7RT/7HA/7HT/8HA/8RT or 1956-1965 190x Holleys, but sure are two barrel.

The carbs are rated from 155 to about 310 cfm at 3"Hg depending on venturi size and listing.

Two of them can flow from 239 to 438 cfm when rated as a 4-bbl at 1.5" Hg (inches of mercury), enough for 150 to 275 horspower. The

The 1938 to 1957 era Ford V8 carbs were rebranded and listed
94 is the bore size = 15/16" or 0.9375", but the throttles are in decimilised form
1,
1-1/16,
1-5/32.

There is no 1-1/2" 94 specifically, but Holley made them in two 2110 series Bug Spray kits in two sizes, the 200 and 300 cfm items.

They were reporductions so you didn't have to raid every flat head 136, 221 or 239 or y block 239, 256 or 272.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=561435

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/thre ... bs.272142/

Stock 94 was 155,162 or 165 cfm
ECG was 185
ECW (may also be a 2110) 1 1/16 Venturi, 1 3/8 butterflies, 2 1/4 choke throat - 205 cfm.

See http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/thre ... ng.169625/
http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/080 ... arburetor/



Two carbs are then rated as a 4-bbl at 1.5' Hg for comparion purposes. So the smallest venturi items are together are 165+165, then divided by by the square root of 2. (330 cfm /1.414= 233 cfm).

 

[BCOWANWHEELS]

I,ve had these 2 94,s for 20 plus yrs anf there show carbs.had a old fella on south Carolina build them when I got them. so guess there going on my 250.

 

[chad]

"...I,ve had these 2 94,s for 20 plus yrs...there going on my 250…."

AND:
new, in production today - Strombourg 97s - made by Bendix !

(too tall 4 me & is 2v vs the 1v I need, but hey! check it out)

 

[BCOWANWHEELS]

there only slightly taller, I,ll get exact height when I go to shop. victor faltimier dose surper rebuilds and corrects throttle shaft wear also. wish i could post pic,s.

 

[BCOWANWHEELS]

plus the 94,s will be tons more period correct for my 63 comet

 

[wsa111]

The Holley 94's are an old design.
You could probably sell them & then install a 390 holley or a pair of holley 7448-350 carbs.

 

[BCOWANWHEELS]

I,ve got those carbs, 94,s for me thanks

 

[xctasy]

there only slightly taller, I,ll get exact height when I go to shop. victor faltimier dose surper rebuilds and corrects throttle shaft wear also. wish i could post pic,s.

PM me, and I'll post the pictures. I'll give you my details.

With me doing 70 hour weeks, so I might take a few hours to respond.

I can say the Italians absolutely mastered flow and horsepower with multiple barrel carbs, but you don't have to use classic independent runners to get power.

I have a 4-bbl conversion to the log head. The large 4-bbl makes 707 cfm at 1.5"Hg, the small 495 cfm.

I replicated the Lampredi system which Ferrari engineer used in the 1962 Fiat 2300 Coupes, basically half a V12, a Mercedes 280E and Falcon cross flow style head made many years before the Germans (1974) and Australians (1976-1980) copied his head set up. They were effectively a 4-bbl set up using two 40 DCOE , 28 mm (Fiat 2300S), they only flowed 279 cfm at 1.5" Hg or 395 cfm at 3.0" Hg per carb.

That's only 558 cfm as a 4bbl.

But it It made 136 flywheel hp with ease from a tiny little engine. With two HD8's flowing 245 cfm or 490 cfm, Ak Miller made 158 flywheel hp with a 200.

424 cfm should make up to 265 hp if you do the cam selection and log head profiling right.


A 600 vac sec to 650 cfm double pumper makes 300 to 350 flywheel hp on the right 250

http://fordsix.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8628

Heres a link to some pics of a ultraflow manifold fitted

Cheers

Simon

 

[BCOWANWHEELS]

I,d like to see your modified log head. been thinking about this a lot recently.........