I have a 65 mustang with a 170 in it but the pump is missing,the engine is stamped with the letter ( U ) on to of the breather pipe, I need a part number or something I can take to my part store, They can't find for sure what one it is not sure what year the engine is or what it came out of. Please help.
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Hold on (you'll get there), yer still on the wrong side I believe. He described it very well - Pass. Side. - a letter/ number /letter /letter like U have (C1XX & C9XX). U may hafta get a flash lite, bucket of solvent (gas, kero, commercial degreaser) & a brush like I did. Scrub it up then wipe it down.
"...the pump is missing..."
might mean the fuel pump
the C prob means "196X" and the 1 could mean "1961". If U get on the correct side (ie the right side sittin on the seat) there is a second number almost touching but below the CXXX number. 4 numbers a hyphen & a letter The last letter tells us if it's a 170 or what. This is my understanding anyway. Give it a try, nothing to loose...
"...the pump is missing..."
might mean the fuel pump
the C prob means "196X" and the 1 could mean "1961". If U get on the correct side (ie the right side sittin on the seat) there is a second number almost touching but below the CXXX number. 4 numbers a hyphen & a letter The last letter tells us if it's a 170 or what. This is my understanding anyway. Give it a try, nothing to loose...
The casting numbers are really the "Engineering Numbers" and tell year a part was first designed, but is not necessarily the year part was made. Many parts were used a number of years without changes too. Engineering Numbers or casting numbers are a good start but to know the rest of the story you also need to find the castings "Date Code".
Block casting number C1DE-1615A basic info decodes as
Decade code C is 1960
The year of decade 1 = 1961
Car Line code D = Falcon
Engineering Department E = Engine
Part number 1615 = Block
Design change A
Manifold C9DE-9480-A,
Decade code C is 1960
The year of decade 9 = 1969
Car Line code D = Falcon
Engineering Department E = Engine
Part number 9480 = Exhaust Manifold
Design change A
Head C5D5-6090A.
Decade code C is 1960
The year of decade 9 = 1965
Car Line code D = Falcon
Engineering Department E = Engine
Part number 6090 = Cylinder Head
Design change A
When trying to find out the correct year part your working with than you will need to find the date code too. Casting dates show the exact day, month and year a certain part was cast it consists of 3 or 4 Numbers and a Letter it also resembles a small raised tag with screws. As an example of what a casting date could look like this is one from a casting "6M08".
Block casting number C1DE-1615A basic info decodes as
Decade code C is 1960
The year of decade 1 = 1961
Car Line code D = Falcon
Engineering Department E = Engine
Part number 1615 = Block
Design change A
Manifold C9DE-9480-A,
Decade code C is 1960
The year of decade 9 = 1969
Car Line code D = Falcon
Engineering Department E = Engine
Part number 9480 = Exhaust Manifold
Design change A
Head C5D5-6090A.
Decade code C is 1960
The year of decade 9 = 1965
Car Line code D = Falcon
Engineering Department E = Engine
Part number 6090 = Cylinder Head
Design change A
When trying to find out the correct year part your working with than you will need to find the date code too. Casting dates show the exact day, month and year a certain part was cast it consists of 3 or 4 Numbers and a Letter it also resembles a small raised tag with screws. As an example of what a casting date could look like this is one from a casting "6M08".
Looks like you have a late 1962 year model engine block, ( 2F7 ) decodes as 1962 June 7th. 
oldgrezmonke
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I believe the conversation has bogged down in a parts #s discussion . The fuel pump is missing . As I understand it any small Ford six can accept any year fuel pump . The only real considerations would the year [of the body] , make , model , with or without vacuum wipers and whether the design of the fuel lines had been altered by a previous owner to fit another year pump or had a factory change during the model year . For instance AutoZone [just for information - use anyplace you prefer] shows 2 pumps for your description - look at the pictures , look at your fuel lines and decide which looks like it would fit . http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/ ... ing=search
You can see one pump has one line coming in from above and the other has both lines on the side .
You can see one pump has one line coming in from above and the other has both lines on the side .
X2 Use the pump that is for a 1965 Mustang body with a six (170 or 200), Fuel pump mounting is the same for both engines. If your carb has a fuel filter on it than you can use either of those two pumps in the above link. If the carb doesn't have a filter than you should use the pump that has the filter can on it. Good Luck 
Autozone's pump doe's work, the only one I can find is on ordser from O'rialys with built in filter ,can it be mounted with the can down . The pump is on order an the only way it looks to work is to have the can at the bottom Part # at O'Reillys is M20000.The only way it will bolt up is the piture shows
The difference in height between the two pumps is likely 2 inches or less. Fuel pumps will only bolt on one way so if you don't have room for the filter can up for some odd reason than use the pump without it and run a filter at your carb.
Lets try this one more time.the mating flange of all the pumps were you put the 2 bolts to mount to block would have to be turned 180 degrees. thats the problem.If you mount the pump upside down the mounting holes an the shape match perfect.I don't know about the rules of the forum that much I have tryed an tryed to post a pic of my 170 engine block an can't. A piture is worth a thousand words. I will post my E-mail an if you could e-mail me back an then I can send an attachment of the block so you can see the problem Me an the auto parts stores are having,( 6 different part stores )Please e-mail. Thanks a bunch.If the can is on top the 2 mating surfaces will no match up,so what's up
wlcornelius54@charter.net
wlcornelius54@charter.net
The fuel pump can only be bolted in one way. You should and can not bolt it in upside down because of the arm.
Look at this picture: http://www.mustangdepot.com/images/SDMP/C3AZ-9350-Y.jpg
This is the way it should be installed. This is for a 170 or early 200. If it does not fit because of the filter can, then get one without and use a fuel filter at the carb.
You can get these at any Mustang Supplier. Do you have a local Mustang shop where you live?
Or try NPD, Mustangs Unlimted, Mustang Depot, etc, etc...
Here is a link from California Mustangs: http://www.cal-mustang.com/REPLACEMENT- ... C1005.aspx
Look at this picture: http://www.mustangdepot.com/images/SDMP/C3AZ-9350-Y.jpg
This is the way it should be installed. This is for a 170 or early 200. If it does not fit because of the filter can, then get one without and use a fuel filter at the carb.
You can get these at any Mustang Supplier. Do you have a local Mustang shop where you live?
Or try NPD, Mustangs Unlimted, Mustang Depot, etc, etc...
Here is a link from California Mustangs: http://www.cal-mustang.com/REPLACEMENT- ... C1005.aspx
The fuel pump can only bolt on correctly one way because of the way it was designed and the blocks mounting bolt pattern for the gasket to seal. The fuel pump itself dose not care if it is upside down or right side up it will operate both ways. IE some of the early 221, 260, 289, 332, 352, 390 V8 engines all use that same fuel pump body (and the same gasket) but with a different operating arm they mount with the filter can down. I don't have a 170 or 200 block in my parts collection right now but my 250 uses the pump without a filter it's mounting is upside down, so if you can bolt that pump correctly onto your engine, than it will work and be right regardless of if the filter can is up or down. The fuel pumps bolt on a bit easier if the cam's fuel pump lobe is in the right spot "no lift or the cam lobe is at lowest point" if not just turn the engine over until lobe is at the low point. Hope this is of some help to clear it up 
a bit easier if the cam's fuel pump lobe is in the right spot "no lift or the cam lobe is at lowest point" if not just turn the engine over until lobe is at the low point. Hope this is of some help...
.. good hint 8)
Here's a '63 170:
... yeah, different fuel pump types from different years and different after-market mfg's .
have fub
.. good hint 8)
Here's a '63 170:
... yeah, different fuel pump types from different years and different after-market mfg's .
have fub
Good news, The pump foruum is solved.A local part store with a counter man that was not going to let this search beat him.It took an AIRTEX 4208,It is new an looks like something from the 20's. Look it up at the Airtex web site. Only place to find it. Thanks for all the help fellows.
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