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65shad

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Just finished with my latest upgrades and I took her out for a ride this evening. I am having so much fun with this car, it can't be legal. First I added a Pacemaker header from Mike and today finished adding x-pipe and mangaflows. The sound is incredible!! Throaty rumble at idle, powerful on acceleration, but pretty quiet at cruise.....just what I was looking for. I definately have that american muscle sound now and it is not too rough/harsh sounding. Additionally, I just added Classic IAS shocks on all corners and the handling is vastly improved. I can't tell you how much difference all this makes. Performance is great all round....a totally different car :P
 
any pics of the header or exhaust system?. and im not familiar with all the members cars. what kinda car do u have
 
You'll have used the set-up WsaIII uses.

His was a dual out exhast coupled with a great dual out header like Mike sells. The x-pipe under the transmission/drive shaft really eliminates the "International Garbage Truck" sound.

The worst thing one can do is copy the Ricer Roni set and add one big single pipe. The sound is then similar to a Lycomming Air plane engine, with a harmonic resonance sound which can be felt in the car, and heard miles off.


In Australia, the Chrysler made many 216, 248, 280, and 306 hp sixes which got dual exhasts to help smoothen out the sound. Even then, they often sounded particularly resonant whn extended. Same thing with the 221, 228 hp XR6 Falcons. Ford added part of the V8 exhasts to these to stop resonance. As soon as an aftermarket exhast gets placed on, the car reverts to an anti-social drone.

Back in the dark ages of XK-E's and DB5 Aston Martins, dual exhasts were standard fare.

BMW started off in 1978 with a dual exhast BMW 323i, one of the sweetest sounding engines ever. Today, the BMW M3 and Lexus IS300 carry on the nice sounding six tradition, with an x or y-pipe.

At the very least, a dual exhast should be standard on any major 200 six upgrade. The x-pipe then helps mellow the tone even further.
 
1) I have a 65 mustang convertible and if I can figure it out, I'll try to post a couple of pics.
2) Yes, this was an exhaust and handling upgrade at this time....more to come hopefully :lol: Pervious upgrades include T-5 and pertronics. Holding out on carb and head while Mike finishes his project.
3) Correct. I copied wsa111's setup. We have different headers, so I went with band clamps on the pacemakers (got that one from Mustang Geezer). Also, with a convertible, fabricating the x-pipe puts in in a little different location and wsa111 is using flowmaster hushpower muffs and I went with the magnaflows. I wanted a little milder sound than the flowmasters since I have a convertible, but honestly, there is a great, powerful note coming from the magnaflows...without drone and very mellow at cruise. I used turndowns, but want to switch to a GT valance when I get the car painted in the future. Oh, also went with 2" pipes (Scott Drake now makes a great looking repo exhaust trumpet for 2" pipes when I change to a GT valance).
 
Another question.

My system doesn't have the X-pipe yet, but I'm looking to put one in. Problem I've had is with a convertible with the T5 upgrade, is where to put it. My system basically is stuffed into the driveshaft well so it is not visable from the outside. Did yours have to drop down more? Biggest problem I've had is the steel floorboard plate that convertibles have right there. Did you go over or under that?

Slade
 
I put my cross pipe right under the plate on my convertible. I posted some pics earlier...I'll see if I can find them again. Plenty of room for the pipes and driveshaft. The shaft goes up much higher than the pics portray as it is on a lift and rer wheels are not supported in pics.

Here you go: http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... fler+pipes

Cheers,
Steve-O
 
Hey 65shad, your setup sounds exactly like what I want to do with my 250 Maverick. I want a throaty sound at idle but pretty quiet at cruise speeds. Are there different types of Magnaflows and if so, what did you end up using? Got part numbers? Where did you purchase the Magnaflows from? Thanks!
 
What Magnaflow Mufflers did you run? Make and model please. I have some old Flowmasters on one of my convertibles and they resonate like crazy.
Doug
 
I have a single outlet header into stock pipe and muffler. I'd like to get a less restrictive exhaust with a decent sound, so what do you guys recommend?
 
Mandrel bent 2½" system, with a glasspack under the rear seats. You're somewhat constrained by the single outlet, and that size exhaust is more than adequate. Could even step down to 2¼" without losing oomph - might cut the drone a little.

Another option would be to run no muffler, just all pipe at first (right to the bumper). Then you can quantify the tones wanted to keep, and those to muffle. It would cost more, but be a decent excuse to drive a week or two with no muffler!
 
Thanks for the pictures...your shop did a much better job then mine. I may find another one to redo my exhaust system. They did all sorts of weird flattening of the pipes and other things I was less then happy with. I'll take the pictures of your set up to the next shop I go to.

Slade
 
My setup looks just like Steve-O's except that where the two pipes begin to split off and the left pipe starts to cross over, that is where the homemade x-pipe is located. I know it has been mentioned that it makes more sense to be further back, but this setup works great on my convertible. I am using the mangaflow XL's. No fancy stainless steel models for me since no one sees the underside anyway. I will try to get the car on a lift tomorrow for some pics. Then the hard part.....trying to figure out how to post them :?
 
You could use OffenokeeComete's set-up, but siamese the pipes behind the transmission like this.

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or wsa111's

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X,

Unfortunately, convertibles have a 1/4" steel plate connecting the seat pans behind the transmission. Makes for a real pain in the ass with exhaust runs, at least if you don't want the pipes too visible.

Slade
 
65shad,
Did you run rounds or ovals and what sizes?
Thanks,
Doug
 
CobraSix":2b3nuix7 said:
Unfortunately, convertibles have a 1/4" steel plate connecting the seat pans behind the transmission. Makes for a real pain in the ass with exhaust runs, at least if you don't want the pipes too visible.
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You could "Y" into a big single pipe (2-1/2" single is plenty big) and then "Y" out again immediately after with your 2" pipes.
 
Slade, there is plenty of room in the transmission tunnel allowing you to run the pipes on top of the plate. Doug, I used ovals. Everything is up tight and outa sight! I just had the car on a lift to take some pics. Now I have to figure this posting thing. Do the pics have to be hosted some where?
 
65shad":i5j0evne said:
Slade, there is plenty of room in the transmission tunnel allowing you to run the pipes on top of the plate. Doug, I used ovals. Everything is up tight and outa sight! I just had the car on a lift to take some pics. Now I have to figure this posting thing. Do the pics have to be hosted some where?
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That's what I did. My x-over connection is above the convertible plate.
 
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