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[62goldenrodvan]

Ok here is my build,
I had some problems, and with the help of Mike @ CI and some guys on this forum I was able to pull it off.

1967 block 204" (.040) over, CI alum head, a hand made Intake I built my self that holds three 44 idf webers, csc 264/110, and all the wammy
machine work needed to put it together. In my opinon do not use a oil slinger with a double roller chain.
It cleared the chain on assembly although it was close, But it did not clear during normal driving conditions. The chain grabed the edge and chewed it up and threw it in the oil pan and restricted the oil flow enough to take out the cam,lifters,main and rod bearings and of course the oil pump.
All this in just 900 miles.
So I called Mike and reordered the parts and had the crank ground again.
And fired it up on 1/2/09 so far so good.
Heres a pic of it, and by the way it is in a station bus with c4 and 9 inch that I built.

Thanks again
For this fourm/Mike
and your guys input,

Kevin.





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[Harte3]

Very nice :!:

 

[michael_cini]

wow, that's a great looking engine! how does it perform? got any more pics?

 

[Cool23]

I would to know more about that inlet manifold

 

[Anlushac11]

Very nice. That intake is gonna be a conversation piece.

 

[64falconsix]

nice setup hate to hear about the engine damage. had the same issue with the oil slinger and double roller chain.

 

[62goldenrodvan]

Thanks for the thumbs up on the build every one.
As far as the intake fab, I made a flange to fit the head and then one for the carbs that centered them with port the spacing, Then I took some mandrel bends cut them up and tig welded it. I built it this way to clear the engine cover side panel.
For the header, It is a much modified clifford part. I welded the two center ports on the out side and raised them much like you would do to raise an intake port on a v8 intake, So to match the CI head ports perfectly and I installed pyrometer bungs for a thermocouple, I also added some flowmaster ball and socket couplings and trimmed off the three bolt flanges to eliminate the gaskets. At the time CI was out of headers.
It runs pretty good, and I know EFI is all the rage but this is the first real set of webers I have tuned and they are bitchin.
smooth acceleration and all mechanical no baseline map to figer out.
And here is a couple more pics.

Kevin.

 

[addo]

That could handle a really big cam towards 300°, with its ample induction. Even as it stands, ought to do pretty well.

 

[62goldenrodvan]

It sounds great,
And the cool thing about the webers is I changed out the venturies
to make them smaller, beleave it or not I built this to drive back and forth to work on 87 octane, I wanted a real nice steet motor (healthy).
I could only emagine what kind of power this would have with 15 to 1
compression on methanol with a set of hillborns on it. 8)

Kevin

 

[fordconvert]

Is that a custom set of plug wires? If its a stock set do you remember the application or part number? The look like they fit fairly well.

 

[62goldenrodvan]

The Ignition system is dsII with an msd 6,blasterIII coil and set of wires I made my self, Its a 8.5 msd universal set for v8 and a set of strait boots you can buy separately from jegs.
I always buy the uni set so I can make them fit the way I like.

 

[Anonymous]

Very nice 62goldenrodvan.
That just looks fast!
Ken

 

[powerband]

The center engine hood clearance must be an issue - 8)

The Intake and Webers look like they could handle any CR and Cam you choose. Nice build specs for a Driver, leaning toward 87 Octane CR/low end torque cam with better breathing for wide powerband. All you need to make the 200 fun again.

 

[Harte3]

The right tune on that set up and it will be every bit as good or better than EFI would be my guess.

 

[rbohm]

8) kudos to you for the effort. webers are not easy to tune, but once set they are as good as EFI.

 

[Anlushac11]

Also thanks for info on oil slinger and double roller, should be ordering mine very shortly.

 

[Broncitis]

What a nice job on that engine, but what is the deal with this oil slinger and double roller, just set my engine in the bay and have never heard of such a thing, is it common, uncommon, how come theirs no mention by JP for installation, a very concerned 200 build.

 

[62goldenrodvan]

What a nice job on that engine, but what is the deal with this oil slinger and double roller, just set my engine in the bay and have never heard of such a thing, is it common, uncommon, how come theirs no mention by JP for installation, a very concerned 200 build.

Broncitis,

When I tore down my 200 it had a oil slinger between the balancer and the crank gear on the timing set.
And this is to keep excess oil splash off the back of the timing cover seal, I think, I do not know of any other use for it.
I talked to mike and he said some guys used them and some did not.
I say leave it off or trim it way down so you have plenty of clearance from the chain it self. Like a quarter of an inch or so.

This is because the double roller chain and gear set is some what wider than the stock set.

Thanks you guys for all the thumbs up. 8)
Kevin,

 

[AzCoupe]

The oil slinger has come up a couple of time in the forum. Not sure why a few have had problems with it, while most do not? Just doesn't make any sense. I used the slinger on my motors and have never had a clearance issue. A couple of guys have tho, but never to the extent of winding up in the oil pan. Those that have had problems either left it out, flattened it, or just trimmed it a bit. I have no idea why it happens when it does, but it would probably be best to check it out when you install the chain. I called JP and they don't know either. At any rate, I'm going to start including a note with the timing chains so it doesn't happen to anyone else. Better to be safe than sorry.

Sweet looking motor.......... Pics like that make my day. Very rewarding to say the least.

 

[Broncitis]

Is this an oiler slinger problem or crankshaft end play problem, really don't feel like tearing into this engine again, the guy who built my bottom end is the very best and I can't imagine him missing a clearance issue and you said it caused oil pressure problems, so I guess it got in the filter screen in the pan, am I correct.