How to pics of my Duraspark II conversion

Does anybody know if they sell a clear distributor cap for the DSII? We have one on the HEI distributor at school and it looks really cool in the dark. I would like to get something like that for mine when I drop it in.
 
Thanks for your great pictures. Son did the conversion for his 68 'stang with a 200 engine, T5, 1100 carb and hot Accel coil. Noticeable improvement in performance. Does anybody know what plug gap to use to get the most benefit?
 
I just got my new set-up and was wondering if I still need to have the ballast resistor hooked up(and what does the darned thing do becides get hot)?

Thanks
Paul.
 
Titleist16":2kxtdhys said:
Does anybody know if they sell a clear distributor cap for the DSII? We have one on the HEI distributor at school and it looks really cool in the dark. I would like to get something like that for mine when I drop it in.

That would be real cool! I just searched around, unfortunately it appears they are only made for Chevy's and foreign brands. :( I would buy one in a heartbeat if someone came out with one!
 
I did this conversion (using new parts) and am very happy with the results!! I would recommend this to anyone. Not real difficult, especially with Joe's info. Good luck to all!

Steve
 
Hello Everyone,

Just a quick question that hopefully someone can answer. I am doing a Duraspark II conversion on my engine and want to know if there is any particular GM HEI module that I should request? Pleease let me know.

Thanks
Tim
 
:D Am replacing the engine in my truck(84 F150 300).The donor truck already has the complete DS2 setup from the factory.My truck now has the feedback carb and associated crap.What wires do I hook the DS2 box into for power and ect?And what else is necessary to do the change over?
Thanks.
Leo
 
JoeTrojan":maxeoq0c said:
terry rakes":maxeoq0c said:
I'm a Newbie and just got a 66' Falcon 200 auto. I was searching the yard this weekend and the only Duraspark I found was in a 81' Merc. I have only heard about using a 77-80' for this conversion. Please lead me in the right direction. The one I saw looked just like Joe Trojans' in his write up. Help.
If it is on a straight six, then you are good to go.

Enjoy!
I have a '83 parts truck that had a 300 in it. Does this hold true if I want to put the module from this into a 200? I know the distributor is different and debating whether to go new on it or visit a junkyard.
 
just a few questions. my 62 ranchero with a 200 has the duraspark 2 setup as well. but i noticed in those photos the box just said duraspark where mine acutally says II right on it. what are the differences if any? also do you have to use the duraspark coil? not sure what is in there right now but the wire posts are threaded. just got this truck still working the bugs out. runs great starts right up ect.. there is a stumble sometimes at stop lights when idling but it is super slight and never runs what i would call rough.
 
Please to clarify??? I thought there was a conversion, (maybe it is specific to my year of car ("74 Comet)) that had a piece that just drops in the existing Distributor, and then buy a New coil? no other parts needed? What am I missing here.
 
Halebopp":wt006x06 said:
Please to clarify??? I thought there was a conversion, (maybe it is specific to my year of car ("74 Comet)) that had a piece that just drops in the existing Distributor, and then buy a New coil? no other parts needed? What am I missing here.
If you have a factory Duraspark 1. You are supposed to be able to bolt on the cap adapter that is stock from a Duraspark 2 and then use the larger Duraspark 2 distributor cap and rotor. I think you will also have to change your spark plug wires to use the newer/larger dist cap.

-ron
 
The most popular/well known drop in thing you are thinking about is called/made by Pertonix. With that conversion you remove the points and put in this little black box and mount a device under the rotor. I have never done one and I have heard mixed things about how well they fit and how well they work. They are the best known for those kits and there are a ton of them out there especially on engines that were not made into the 70's like ours so often times those people dont have any other choices. You dont have to change the coil but you can if you want to have more potential gains.

Your 74 was the transition year. If your dizzy has 1 little wire coming off it going to the coil it is still a points system, if it has 2 or 3 little wires that go to some sort of box then a few more wires that go to the coil and other places its a DS1 or DS2.
 
yeah It is has points I had them replaced awhile back.

I guess I was confused , did not know there was more than option, I actaully learned a little on Maverick.to today to, they mentioned a totla of 3 options, the last one being a gm conversion, but that one didn't seem to have much good things said about it. It's all a lot clearer, Seems the Pertronix woudl be the way to go, but if it provced unreliable, then simply go the duraspark route.

On thing though, when I replaced my dizzy, I tried to go with a single advance one, and it wouldn't fit the oil pump shaft would not mate up with the Dizzy, Does anyone know the correct part number for the Duraspark Distributor I would need if I went that route?
 
so i got 2 questions.

NPD sells remanned durasparks for $50. how much does the average conversion from the junkyard cost? dist + module + rebuilding.

Do i need the dist. with a single diaphram or a dual diaphram?

1 more, what do i need/ what do i need to do for the wiring.
 
After a few bloodied knuckles, a wasted solenoid, and a loose ground strap, it finally fired right back up! Sometimes I doubted you Joe, but everything you said to do, I did, and it works! She winds right up now with no miss. This article gets an A+ from me.
 
Here's a good write-up of using a Duraspark dizzy to trigger a GM HEI module, from http://www.carbdford.com/tech/HEI/hei.htm

(actually, it's a version of the info from www.gofastforless.com, with a bit added.)

Go to the link for pics and wiring diagram.

For the module you want a GM 4-pin HEI. They came on GM vehicles from the mid seventies through the early eighties. You can buy one new at any auto parts store. Any good parts guy will know exactly what a four-pin HEI module is. Although good parts guys are hard to find so you will probably need to ask for an ignition module for a '78 Camaro with a 350. Since they are so cheap you don't need to go to the junkyard. Besides, all the junkyards around here wouldn't even sell me just the module, they wanted me to buy the whole HEI distributor to get it. The module in the picture is a Car Quest #21040 and cost me $17.77. As you can see there are four pins labeled W, G, B, and C. The G pin is a 3/16" (0.187") male quick disconnect and the rest are 1/4" (0.250") male quick disconnects. I recommend you stay away from the Parts Master module #LX-301. All the failures I have seen and heard about were due to the Parts Master module.

The HEI module gets pretty hot, whatever it's mounted to needs to act as a heat sink and carry heat away from it. Mount it securely to a flat metal surface away from the headers or other heat sources. There are two pins on the back of the module that you need to break off so it will sit flat. The module will come with some heat sink compound, smear it evenly over the back of the module before bolting it down. The compound aids heat transfer. You could also mount the module to a big heat sink. I bolted mine to a heat sink from a slot type computer processor. If you're a computer geek like myself then you probably have one laying around. If not then you can buy one at Radio Shack or a computer store. Again you will want to use the heat sink compound between the module and heat sink.

Once you have it mounted you need to wire it up. The B pin goes to the positive coil lead which gets power when the key is on, and C goes to the negative coil lead. The tach. also hooks to the negative coil lead. If you are converting from fuel injection then the coil is already wired for power (red) and tach. (green). Splice into these wires. Don't remove them from the coil just add some wires to them and run them to the module. On an older car you will need to bypass the ballast resistor so you get full power to the coil and module.

The Duraspark distributor has a funky three pin connector. You can just plug into it with standard 3/16" female quick disconnects. The purple wire is run to the G pin on the module, and the orange wire is run to the W pin.

Run the black wire to one of the mounting screws on the module. The black wire provides a solid ground connection for the module. The module must be grounded or it will not work properly.

I'd agree with all of the above, but note that it's not absolutely necessary to run the black wire from the Duraspark distributor to the module, since the dizzy grounds to the block and the module grounds through its mounting screws - assuming your mounting screws actually go into something that makes a good ground, that is.
 
Just finished this weekend after a month of collecting the parts.
Again Thanks everyone for all the great info.
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I enjoyed the article. Thanks for posting it. I am running the stock dist. with Petronix on my 66 200. I advanced my timing as far as I could with the vacuum mod. against the block. The car woke right up and ran great and It didn't knock However, it would not turn over after I shut it off so I put the timing back where it was. I figured vapor lock or to much compression. I would seem something just isn't the way it should be. I am running a Clifford rebuild with a Weber 2V on the orginal head. Any suggestions?
 
Greg Gaitens":ahsc38wf said:
I enjoyed the article. Thanks for posting it. I am running the stock dist. with Petronix on my 66 200. I advanced my timing as far as I could with the vacuum mod. against the block. The car woke right up and ran great and It didn't knock However, it would not turn over after I shut it off so I put the timing back where it was. I figured vapor lock or to much compression. I would seem something just isn't the way it should be. I am running a Clifford rebuild with a Weber 2V on the orginal head. Any suggestions?

I would try posting a specific question in the forum and not under a multi-year old sticky.
 
who all is using a gm hei module? where did you mount it? how?. im putting mine on the block behind the dipstick, not sure how i should mount it though.
 
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