Modifying the Carter super strip pump

hasa68mustang

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I decided to do a writeup of the pumps and figured I would show pics and kinda do a how to.

Heres the competition, stock on the left producing 3-4 psi, and the Carter superstrip pump on the right, capable of flowing 120 gph @ 9psi.

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Ok so you have this great pump... so now what? put it in right? ha good luck with that one... you have to start off by removing the pin in both pumps, on the stock pump I used a drill until it reached the pin and dulled the bit :( , so I finished off with an air grinder. I used that same grinder to remove a small piece of metal over the pin stopper in the carter pump. in this pic you can see what I ended up doing to remove the stock pin.

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next I used a couple of tools to remove the front spring on the carter pump so it woudlnt have tension on it so I could remove the pin with some needle nose pliars and some shimmying with it... here you can see the differences in the arms, and see the spring removed for taking it out, the pins are the same diameter, and the pumps have the same hole size and bolt pattern...

pump002.jpg


I then proceeded to make sure the pump arm fit correctly and put the pin and stopper back in. heres the final pic. I still havent fastened the pin stopper piece in yet, havent had time to work on it but a few asked if I could take pics and do some kind of writeup.

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there you go a sbc fuel pump made to fit our inlines... I dunno who decided to try this but they are a genious. now going back to teh stock pic where can I run the boost reference from? theres a small vent hole on the bottom side could I just run a boost line there orrrr? I know it goes o the bottom sie of the diaphram so Im guessing so. but yea heres the final thing. Ill update with how it works for me and any other problems I run into.

edit: 9/17/06

O.k. Everything is up and running...well sort of... I lost spark after moving the car 20 feet, it felt pretty good though. still no changes to timing, it seemed to brake torque REALLY good and not act retarded and bog/hesitate/stumble... Fuel pressure is at 9-11 psi (gauge was fluttering a bit) so far it seemed to be runnign really well and no complaints.

As for boost referencing I found an old piece of brake line off a mustang II I believe and sanded it smooth, and it fit PERFECT in the vent hole, I used a hammer to tap it down and ran a boost line from the compressor and it rises with boost. heres some pics I used epoxy to hold the pin in and sanded it and painted it with paint to make it match some... heres pics...

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this is the pressure gauge it was fluttering between 11 and 9 psi and the pic cought it at 11.
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thanks for the write up tommy i cant wait to see how well it works and i cant wait to see it in person som time cause i still havent seen ur turbo setup in person yet
 
That is a great write-up there Tommy. And yes, that's the vent hole you want to use for boost referencing. Simple wasn't it?!

Kirk
 
kirkallen143":mlu6fw6m said:
That is a great write-up there Tommy. And yes, that's the vent hole you want to use for boost referencing. Simple wasn't it?!

Kirk

haha very... and I accidentally didnt post this the first time... I previewed it and went to another page then went to look at it and saw it wasnt there... and used the back button a bunch and it was all saved and it scared me because I thought it never posted but SOMEBODY moved it... I dunno what its all made out of I would like to weld it however if the pin holder is aluminum or something Ill use something called quik weld... I love that stuff... jb is runny and I used to love that stuff until I found the tube of quik weld. it is "ok" till 500* and its held better than the jb on my boost reference... but im going to finish it and I put it in the turbo section because of the boost referencing of it but good call on the regular small block performance aspect.
 
hasa68mustang":19lmg3ss said:
... I dunno who decided to try this but they are a genious.

I think "import eater" gets the credit, no?


I am curious to see what the fuel pressure will be.
With those two springs removed when the chevy arm came out,
fuel pressure will not be as high as with the chevy arm in.
 
Linc's 200":la8jm195 said:
hasa68mustang":la8jm195 said:
... I dunno who decided to try this but they are a genious.
I am curious to see what the fuel pressure will be.
With those two springs removed when the chevy arm came out,
fuel pressure will not be as high as with the chevy arm in.

Linc,
I am getting around 9psi(+/-) after the pump. That's with 3/8" line, to add.

Kirk
 
Good job! Hot rodding innovation at it's best. That third picture down looks like a crime scene; all you need is a chalk outline of a the pump body and a broken drill bit as the weapon.
 
That Carter fuel pump looks suspiciously similar to a fuel pump we have here in Australia. It is a Carter pump also off our crossflow Falcon motors, but it bolts straight on to the earlier prexflow block.
 
73GreenMachine":391zeyqc said:
That Carter fuel pump looks suspiciously similar to a fuel pump we have here in Australia. It is a Carter pump also off our crossflow Falcon motors, but it bolts straight on to the earlier prexflow block.

you guys all suck. crossflow motors, high flow fuel pumps and turbo falcons... you guys are living the life... we get oversized suvs and trucks and inlines in beamers and diesels... not fair. still no update... work school and rain has halted everything tomorrow however I will get it done and maybe get a video that some of you requested of it spinning the tires form a roll or maybe a big burnout or something cause it doesnt sound bad due to major exhaust leaks.

update 9/16 it RUNS!!! but had a leak where I had my fuel pressure gauge hooked up. so still no word as to fuel pressure but it does pump gas and makes for a good high pressure spray out the lines :x
 
Linc's 200":1c0kffqo said:
hasa68mustang":1c0kffqo said:
... I dunno who decided to try this but they are a genious.

I think "import eater" gets the credit, no?


I am curious to see what the fuel pressure will be.
With those two springs removed when the chevy arm came out,
fuel pressure will not be as high as with the chevy arm in.

I heard you could make a SBC pump work by swapping out the arms and I saw a turbocharged SBF with the Carter pump. Put the two together and you have a cheap way to feed a boosted Ford Six! I love it! I wish I could clame it but I am not at all the first one to use a SBC pump.

Dan
 
:lol: :lol: :lol: Man I have been working on so much stuff it is insane! Still married also! :shock: Yea, the new motor has been in the car for a while but with no cyl. head. I was waiting on the new aluminium FSPP head but I am ready to get it back going so I had my old head cleaned and checked last week. I should be able to start it up in the next week or two. I really want to redo my turbo setup so it may be a little while before it is all done and on the road. I promise it will rock this time around!

Dan
 
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