supercharged 223

[Anonymous]

Looking for info on forced induction for the 223. I am thinking of using an sn-60 or modified 3.8 factory ford blower with about 5-7 psi of boost and a clifford 4 barrel intake with a blow thru hat. I dont think I will run into any durability issues with this amount of boost. Anyone tried this?

Mike

 

[68coupe200]

I've personally never tried it, but i'd like to see an old six like this supercharged. I know its been done to the 200 ci "falcon" six, so i'm fairly certain it'll be do-able on your 223.

Good luck.

 

[Anonymous]

I too am curious with either a super charger or turbo charger on a 223. I think turbo would be the way to go as far as cost effectiveness is concerned. I really don't want a lot of boost, but a few extra ponies, and the cool factor I think would be worth the challenge. Anybody with input as far as size for a turbo and safe psi would be great.

 

[Anonymous]

Mike,
Good pard of mine put a turbo from a helicopter on his 300-6 GMC stovebolt. He hauls his housetrailer up into the mountains east of here
(peaks are 2600ft , 2800ft above sea level)....
He says it's a FINE set-up for towing and he could go uphill at 55 all day long. Gets a big charge out of passing loaded logtrucks that are in 2nd Under doing 25mph....and he's doin' 55 in a 1959 GMC pickup towing a 45 foot housetrailer.
All I can say, is take some serious notes if you do this, and photos too.
you could sell your efforts to a hotrod magazine and help offset the cost of the work!! AS WELL as sell a package to folks who want to do turbo to their Own 223's. Good Luck on the poject, Don

 

[Colonel Flashman]

Looking for info on forced induction for the 223. I am thinking of using an sn-60 or modified 3.8 factory ford blower with about 5-7 psi of boost and a clifford 4 barrel intake with a blow thru hat. I dont think I will run into any durability issues with this amount of boost. Anyone tried this?

Mike

I've a Late '50s McCullough/Paxton S/C that needs Rebuilding & Upgrading that I plan on puting on my B&B'd & P&P'd '58 223c.i.er, which could be Special Ordered from the Factory or the Dealership could mount them.

 

[Anonymous]

C'mon Colonel, don't be so tight lipped. How about some numbers, and pics for us that don't have one of these. We could be informed on what to look for in the parts piles.

I'm sure we'll find one right next to that mint condition 262.

 

[Anonymous]

Well I am a little closer now. I just got a new clifford manifold and holley 390 off of ebay for under 400.00 shipped, I guess my luck is changing for the better.

Anyone used the Sac vintage ford 223 header? Good price hows the quality?

Mike

 

[Anonymous]

Anyone used the Sac vintage ford 223 header? Good price hows the quality?

Mike

Not to steal your thread, but I'm guessing that you're talking about Sacramento Vintage Ford's 223 pickup header? If so, thanks for the tip that they exist. For $125, I may just buy one of these and mod it to fit my '64 passenger car. Plus this'll give you a bump to the top of the forum....

Jan

 

[curts56]

Here's pics of a turboed 223:

http://www.ckdesign-inc.com/images/Turbo/223.jpg

Curt
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[Anonymous]

hey i was told, by a guy who has used blowers on his puller trucks, that it's better to use a pull thru than blow thru. see you have to do a bunch of mods to a blow thru carb but with a pull thru( like the setup on the like above) all you do is tune it like normal. that is my understanding anyways.

 

[wallaka]

It depends on how much power you want to make. The draw-through is limited to about 10 psi, while the right blow-through setup will go to 50 psi if needed. Of course that's an extreme example, but it could happen. The carb mods aren't extensive: a solid float, drilled power valve and removal of the choke horn is really all that's needed besides a rebuild to make sure the gaskets are in good condition. The draw-through is simpler and easier, though, with no intercooler or blow-off valve to worry about.

EDIT: I'm talking about turbos, not superchargers. The draw-through is much much easier with traditonial superchargers. The Eatons don't have sealed bearings though, and can't be used draw-through unless the bearings are changed.

 

[Anonymous]

Well I finally have had enough time to get the intake and Sac vintage header on and linkage done. Had to machine the flange on the header to match the intake thickness though. I still haven't got all the pieces needed for my supercharging but she is well on her way now. What kind of mufflers are you guys/gals running? I'm looking for a nice mellow sound and am thinking of smithy's or hush2's. Any suggestions. I dont know of anyone around my local area still running a 223 to compare sounds with.

Mike

 

[Anonymous]

I'm running a single 1 3/4" pipe off of a stock manifold into a 2" Cherry Bomb glasspack, then necked back down into 1 3/4" tailpipe. It sounds sweet, with a low rumble and a decent pitch without a lot of 6 cyl reverb.
If you go into the tech forum, there's a lot of info on the best way to make power, and quite a few people have posted on their preferences in mufflers and exhaust systems.

 

[Anonymous]

As best to my memory, last year at the Antique Nationals (LA County Raceway) there was a vintage 28-29 Model A dragster with a 4 banger that had a Mcculloch blower mounted off the side of the engine opposite the carburetor. (the engine looked like a small version of a 223). He then ran the intake airflow tubing across the front of the engine to the intake manifold, where a sealed carburetor box was waiting to do its stuff. Zoomi's too. A wicked looking ride, it was. If i seem him again this year, I will take pics.

 

[Anonymous]

Well I finally have had enough time to get the intake and Sac vintage header on and linkage done. Had to machine the flange on the header to match the intake thickness though. I still haven't got all the pieces needed for my supercharging but she is well on her way now. What kind of mufflers are you guys/gals running? I'm looking for a nice mellow sound and am thinking of smithy's or hush2's. Any suggestions. I dont know of anyone around my local area still running a 223 to compare sounds with.

Mike

Mike,
Are you going with a Supercharger?? Roots type like the EATON M-90 that the Tbird SC uses?? Or are you going with a Turbo setup?? I am getting mixed signals in the thread.. I think a Blow-Through Turbo would be make loads of power. Being pretty well versed with the Eaton M-90 I would say that the Turbo would net better power by far. The M90 SC robs alot of power from the crank just to spin it...

In regards to Exaust, I just finished up mine using the same headers you have and went with 2-1/4 tubing and DynoMax Super Turbo Mufflers. NOT the Strait-Through design mufflers. I used the chambered mufflers and netted great results. No BUZZ tones at all...Just that deep bass tone...No disappointments with these mufflers.

Look forward to some pictures of your project as well.


Brad

 

[Anonymous]

Im getting an older sn60 from a buddy off his mustang set up. I love Free parts 200HP would be nice

Mike