Superchargers?????

[MustangBilly]

I have a 200ci that im building to be supercharged the supercharger is a long long way off but what kind of superchargers are you guys running? does anyone make a kit??? What should i look for when the time comes?

also im not planning on going all out dragster id like it to be more of an every day driver

 

[Zypher]

Sorry I can't be much of a help but I have seen a link on the classic inlines site but the super charger kit isn't available, here it is though.

http://www.classicinlines.com/prod_dev.asp

Scroll down a bit and you can read all I know.

 

[Alvor315]

The eaton m90 is just the right size for our 200 sixes. You can find them on ebay for around $200-$400, or if you have a fairly active junkyard you might find one on a mercedes or newer thunderbird. I personally haven't made the modification but I did a lot of research a while back before I decided to go with a turbo.

IMHO you will have trouble getting what you want from a daily driver especially with current gas prices, if you use a supercharger.

 

[Alvor315]

P.S.
http://www.classicinlines.com/gallery/fordinlines/boosted/pages/TS027_jpg.html

This is a fairly simple supercharger setup.

 

[Mustangaroo]

IMHO you will have trouble getting what you want from a daily driver especially with current gas prices, if you use a supercharger.

Sorry, but a Supercharger only make boost when you smash the pedal down. It's not making boost at cruise speeds when you are lightly pressing the pedal down, That's one of the pluses over a Turbo, the Supercharger offers a little better daily MPG when driven normally. I have found the Paxton Supercharger easy to setup and tune for a daily driver, yes you'll have to make a custom bracket to mount the supercharger, but this is no worse than having to do all the exhaust pluming and welding for the Turbo setup? Just my opinion BTW I have been running this Supercharger setup for almost 5 years, I'm currently rebuilding my engine and am making a new bracket to setup the Supercharger on the drivers side, so I may have the passenger side supercharger bracket for sale in the next few months after I make the converison. I'll post it in our Forsale section when I do!

 

[wallaka]

A turbo only "makes boost" when there's a load on the engine. There's not much of one when cruising. Heck, you'll even see a vacuum when at cruise some of the time. Superchargers (specially a Roots) make boost linearly with RPMs. The centrifugal setups like you have are much more efficient than a Roots, but not as good as a turbo because the turbo is not coupled directly to the crank.

I've never heard of a supercharged car making better mileage than a comparable turbo car. Not once.

 

[MustangBilly]

yea but i have heard that setting up a carb. engine for turbo is alot harder then a supercharger set up, if this is true id rather take the easier route --

 

[Mustangaroo]

IMHO you will have trouble getting what you want from a daily driver especially with current gas prices, if you use a supercharger.

Sorry I was only refering to the fact that the supercharger doesn't reduce your mpg that much if you not hot rodding it around all the time. I supose the turbo does get better mpg, I really havn't seen any real life comparisons between the two, and I don't even care which does get the better mpg as the Paxton Supercharger setup I am running was very easy to install and tune. That was the point I was trying to make.
Heck if mpg was what we were after we wouldn't be boosting these engines anyway

 

[wallaka]

IMHO you will have trouble getting what you want from a daily driver especially with current gas prices, if you use a supercharger.

Sorry I was only refering to the fact that the supercharger doesn't reduce your mpg that much if you not hot rodding it around all the time. I supose the turbo does get better mpg, I really havn't seen any real life comparisons between the two, and I don't even care which does get the better mpg as the Paxton Supercharger setup I am running was very easy to install and tune. That was the point I was trying to make.
Heck if mpg was what we were after we wouldn't be boosting these engines anyway

Very true, lol. I guess it all depends on what you'd rather deal with, cutting and fitting tubing or machining bracketry. They are both a good upgrade.

 

[wallaka]

yea but i have heard that setting up a carb. engine for turbo is alot harder then a supercharger set up, if this is true id rather take the easier route --

The turbo and supercharger carbs are set up very similarly. The difference comes when comparing draw-through or blow-through applications. Draw-through put the carb before the supercharger/turbo and blow-through place it after. Blow-through carbs need a little more work done, but from what I've seen it's nothing too complicated. Since draw-through carbs are not pressurized, they don't seem to need much, if any work done besides general tuning.

However, blow-through setups generally support much more horsepower. They can be easily and safely intercooleed, which is a huge advantage.

 

[LaGrasta]

http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... highlight=

 

[70stangcoupe]

has anyone on here done much testing with these superchargers on a 250? Ive been trying to plan a good engine build for my mustang and id love to bolt on a supercharger part of the build.

 

[AzCoupe]

I've been talking with ProCharger, and they are going to help us set up a kit for the 200/250ci. I have a mock up kit on the way, so I can work on the plates, brackets, pulleys, and pipes.

 

[70stangcoupe]

i like the sound if that

 

[350kmileford]

I understand that one can change the output of a supercharger by varying the pulley size. What's the average people are running these at? 8psi? Can people get 12psi? 15? I am trying to find out if there is as much power potential in an M90 as a similar turbo. I do understand that it takes power to run a sc.

 

[AzCoupe]

Depends on your compression ratio, if you have an intercooler, the efficency of the intercooler, and the octane rating.

 

[350kmileford]

Is there any reason a strong/rebuilt m90 couldn't physically spin fast enough to produce higher boost demands?

 

[wallaka]

The issue is heat production. The M90 is so inefficient (compared to turbocharging and centrifugal superchargers) and very difficult to intercool. That makes intake temps rise a couple hundred degrees at higher boost levels. That's not good for anything.

 

[MustangBilly]

So the easier to intercool the better??? and a turbo setup is easier to intercool?? But is making the right fuel to air ratio in a blow through carb difficult to achieve???