water 4 fuel, 50% fuel savings?
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rhetor
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yeah but the space shuttle is a freakin HOT ROD! It even goes straight up! Sweet.
I am compelled to keep using gasoline until it costs more than its worth. Probably $10/gallon. At that point, maybe i'll just choke on a short range electric car. Better yet, a bicycle and more food.
Lets get China to start producing some dirt cheap, moderately efficient solar panels.
You know they make fuel additives that are created specifically to get the water OUT of your tank?
I would really love to see a breakthrough in rechargeable battery technology. If we can get cheap, high energy/mass and energy/volume batteries, it will open up an entire new thought process on how we package and send energy.
I am compelled to keep using gasoline until it costs more than its worth. Probably $10/gallon. At that point, maybe i'll just choke on a short range electric car. Better yet, a bicycle and more food.
Lets get China to start producing some dirt cheap, moderately efficient solar panels.
You know they make fuel additives that are created specifically to get the water OUT of your tank?
I would really love to see a breakthrough in rechargeable battery technology. If we can get cheap, high energy/mass and energy/volume batteries, it will open up an entire new thought process on how we package and send energy.
Falcon Ranch
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I personally built a working unit that put out a fair amount of hydrogen gas...I installed this on a '70 Ford Ranchero a buddy owned...302 10.5:1 CR, quadrojet 650 carb and headers with a loud exhaust...he averaged 13 around town and had a detonation problem because the gas in CA is junk...got about 17 highway...after a few weeks running with the unit, he was getting 17 city and 23 highway...his detonation under a load was gone and he had a better curb idle...the unit pulled 11 amps...he had a FMX tans and 3.00:1 gears...he did up-grade his alternator to a bigger unit.
Dave 8)
Dave 8)
Di-lythium crystals anyone. (Or is it di-lithyum)
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Hydrogen is a powerful element and HHO is three times more potent than gasoline.
How are you going to generate, store HHO for any length of time without it becoming, DUH!, water. Sure as hell would not try to compress.
Why are there no major (read "real") companies or car manufactures addressing this technology. Please no conspiracy stories, theroies of legends..... Does not work, "Does Not Equate". Just the US just went through $4.00 gal gasoline and now the car companies are about to go butt up and no one is attempting. If technology like this was real it would resurrect Studebaker.
You got it, flaunt it, run to Detroit, Chyrsler or GM would hire you today.
We'll see you on CNN tomorrow as savior of the US auto industries.
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Hydrogen is a powerful element and HHO is three times more potent than gasoline.
How are you going to generate, store HHO for any length of time without it becoming, DUH!, water. Sure as hell would not try to compress.
Why are there no major (read "real") companies or car manufactures addressing this technology. Please no conspiracy stories, theroies of legends..... Does not work, "Does Not Equate". Just the US just went through $4.00 gal gasoline and now the car companies are about to go butt up and no one is attempting. If technology like this was real it would resurrect Studebaker.
You got it, flaunt it, run to Detroit, Chyrsler or GM would hire you today.
We'll see you on CNN tomorrow as savior of the US auto industries.
JOSH1966200
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this really works and besides the better mpgs it gives a bit more pep to the motor and cleans it to i have 1 on my 66 mustang with a stock 200 and im getting almost 60 mpg and i made mine from a mason jar :wrench:
Or he consumed what used to be in the mason jar prior to running the test
I was thinking of the more...er, traditional contents of a mason jar. Guaranteed to improve the results of almost anything. Till the next morning. 
:rolflmao:Three words:
Cold fusion water. Remember several year ago the great discovery / break through in cold fusion? Now if you could get the water from the cold fusion process and use it, by my calculations (not always accurate)mileage increase in the range of 143% is entirely possible. Car + C-130 w/ open ramp + 35,000' + drive off with engine at idle = 143%. of course if the C-130 fuel useage is factored in then the experiment is a bust.
:roll:
Cold fusion water. Remember several year ago the great discovery / break through in cold fusion? Now if you could get the water from the cold fusion process and use it, by my calculations (not always accurate)mileage increase in the range of 143% is entirely possible. Car + C-130 w/ open ramp + 35,000' + drive off with engine at idle = 143%. of course if the C-130 fuel useage is factored in then the experiment is a bust.
:roll:
JOSH1966200
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naw the speedo works great
JOSH1966200":150g4n61 said:
If you can produce these results on demand and get them verified by three laboratories using back to back double blind tests you will probably win a Nobel prize that is worth FAR more than just braggin' rights. I sorta like doubt it though :roll:
Joe
Still seems to me like you have a complicated water injection system; Electricity 'splits' the water into Hydrogen and Oxygen, which are fed into the carb.Once in the combustion chamber and undergoing compression, re-unites as water.Of coarse it eliminates detonation problems, and yes, it steam cleans the combustion chamber.Maybe the 'denser' air improves mileage/performance slightly. I know my vehicles always run great in the rain.
Could get the same effect with a water 'mist-er' or vaporiser.
Seems to me like effort to re-capture H2o in the exhaust, to feed a water injection system so you could increase compression without detonation would be a more practical use of time. Not that I'm saying thats very practical!
Did see an article on the net where a guy was powering a 70's Lincoln, AS A PROOF OF CONCEPT' using aluminum cans; no gasoline.He had to clean the surface off them, and cut them into pieces. He filled a 50 gal. barrel with them, and added H2o with some chemicals.Was able to start and run the lincoln, sitting in his garage.Just wanted to prove it could work.The 'generator' would be pretty big, to haul around, and cleaning /shredding the cans, have to come up with a more efficient way to do that.
Also heard you can make massive amounts of Hydrogen, using Galv. steel.Tends to go BOOM! tho....
Could get the same effect with a water 'mist-er' or vaporiser.
Seems to me like effort to re-capture H2o in the exhaust, to feed a water injection system so you could increase compression without detonation would be a more practical use of time. Not that I'm saying thats very practical!
Did see an article on the net where a guy was powering a 70's Lincoln, AS A PROOF OF CONCEPT' using aluminum cans; no gasoline.He had to clean the surface off them, and cut them into pieces. He filled a 50 gal. barrel with them, and added H2o with some chemicals.Was able to start and run the lincoln, sitting in his garage.Just wanted to prove it could work.The 'generator' would be pretty big, to haul around, and cleaning /shredding the cans, have to come up with a more efficient way to do that.
Also heard you can make massive amounts of Hydrogen, using Galv. steel.Tends to go BOOM! tho....
JOSH1966200
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i dont have to prove it these guys did it for me :rolflmao:
watch the movie
http://www.preignitioncc.com/flashGcesHi.htm
watch the movie
http://www.preignitioncc.com/flashGcesHi.htm
And Josiah Gibbs proved it couldn't work.
I'll make you the same offer I've made before:
Show it to me on paper and I'll believe it. I want to see the chemical balance equations including energy flows for all the processes involved. Your videos, what you think you have achieved, what some guy that your brother-in-law claims, etc. are all meaningless. Show me on paper how you're getting more energy out of the process than you're putting into it and we'll have a meaningful discussion.
I'll make you the same offer I've made before:
Show it to me on paper and I'll believe it. I want to see the chemical balance equations including energy flows for all the processes involved. Your videos, what you think you have achieved, what some guy that your brother-in-law claims, etc. are all meaningless. Show me on paper how you're getting more energy out of the process than you're putting into it and we'll have a meaningful discussion.
This reminds me of "The Far Side®" cartoon by Gary Larson; two goofy looking Professors were standing in front of a blackboard covered with "equations", one Prof was saying something like "Yes, yes, I KNOW that, EVERYBODY knows that, but when this formula is applied, two wrongs really DO make a right!".
Joe
Joe
