All Small Six What carb and distributor combo to use?

[akidwithacar]

Hey all. I have a 65 200 in a mustang that was built in California, and is SCV equipped. I have had nothing but trouble with these as its near impossible for me to get it to run right. What can I swap in to make it run butter smooth and get rid of that pesky autolite.

 

[bubba22349]

Depending on how much work you want to do there are severial later 1V carb's (and a few 2V's Carb's can be adapted) without the SCV from 1968 up (or 1966 up in California) do know that you will also need to match it up with a better distributor shuch as a 1968 to 1974 (again 1966 up in California) point type distributor or the better 1976 to 1982 DuraSpark II electronic distributor these will both fit as well as a few others. Good luck

 

[B RON CO]

Hi, as mentioned, you should match the carb and ignition system. If you want to get rid of the SCV carb and LOL distributor you can do it, but check the size of the carb opening. The early engines have a 1 1/2" opening and in 1969 the opening was enlarged to 1 3/4". After all these years you have to check if the head was replaced with a later head. Before you start buying parts you should get the Ford Falcon Performance Handbook and read the tech resource on this site and come up with a plan for your car. Also check out vintageinlines for 6 cylinder performance parts. Good luck

 

[akidwithacar]

Hi, as mentioned, you should match the carb and ignition system. If you want to get rid of the SCV carb and LOL distributor you can do it, but check the size of the carb opening. The early engines have a 1 1/2" opening and in 1969 the opening was enlarged to 1 3/4". After all these years you have to check if the head was replaced with a later head. Before you start buying parts you should get the Ford Falcon Performance Handbook and read the tech resource on this site and come up with a plan for your car. Also check out vintageinlines for 6 cylinder performance parts. Good luck

I will double check on the size. Thanks for the info.

 

[akidwithacar]

Depending on how much work you want to do there are severial later 1V carb's (and a few 2V's Carb's can be adapted) without the SCV from 1968 up (or 1966 up in California) do know that you will also need to match it up with a better distributor shuch as a 1968 to 1974 (again 1966 up in California) point type distributor or the better 1976 to 1982 DuraSpark II electronic distributor these will both fit as well as a few others. Good luck

thanks for the info

 

[bmbm40]

As stated get the DSII ignition. I would contact wsa111 for info and get the Falcon Handbook as it covers what you want to accomplish. Is your Mustang automatic or manual?

 

[chad]

The Ford Falcon SIX Cylinder PERFORMANCE HANDBOOK | Vintage Inlines

The Ford Falcon SIX Cylinder Performance Handbook has 107 pages of History, Facts, and Information to help you get more power out of your small Ford SIX. This engine was used in Falcons, Mustangs, Fairlaines, and Comets in the 60’s. It was the FoMoCo workhorse in Mavericks, Granadas, and...

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After reading them I was up t speed w/most guys on here.
Plenty of help a puter screen/key bd away.

* ie '65 motor change to allow the DSII dizzy, '68 carb change to up grade carb (LOM/SCV).
U R on ur way if U have IDed U have SCV carb. Just a begining tho...

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[R_Calris]

I would also recommend if you are still in CA, Check your local laws as far as grandfathering. some counties in CA may still require any vehicle ever titled in CA to have CA emissions ADDED, although it is rare.

There are also instances where CA emissions were removed from an engine, the engine was put into cars whose VINs were not CA emissions, however because the block # said it had emissions, the county required the parts to be reinstalled. I only have anecdotal evidence of this, or it may no longer apply; but to be on the safe side, checking with local laws are a good idea before digging too deeply into the project.

 

[chad]

to me every 'project' requires some research. I love it. Its all part of the work to me. Systems, like auto restoration, call on diverse talents. Some I hafta learn. At my age growth and 'the new' are exciting.
Like IDing each component on a new-to-me rig - finding appicable state law can be a way to expand who I am.

 

[wsa111]

Hey all. I have a 65 200 in a mustang that was built in California, and is SCV equipped. I have had nothing but trouble with these as its near impossible for me to get it to run right. What can I swap in to make it run butter smooth and get rid of that pesky autolite.

Get in touch with me. billythedistributorman@live.com Bill wsa111

 

[bubba22349]

Yes all California small Ford Six'es up to 1965 would still have a SCV & LOM Dist. system. However California emissions changed for the small six on the 1966 year models with the SCV Carburators along with the Load O Matic Distributors being upgraded to the better later style Duel Advance Distributors and the non SCV Carburators. The last I remember there is no emission equipment required on any of the California Cars and Trucks up to year model 1974. After that its required to have full stock emissions equipment to be used or else to have an EO number on any aftermarket replacement parts that are used.

 

[R_Calris]

I know that my six uses a Motorcraft 1946C (C for California emissions) carb, and the 1978/9 Ford Fairmont (Mercury Zephyr) distributor is one of the ones recomended to upgrade early sixties sixes to. so that might be something to look at if you want to move away from the Autolite. however the moto-1946C (don't know about the regular Moto-1946) really needs the EGR valve to work in order to tune the engine so you aren't dangerously lean at highway speeds.

my 1946C has a lovely issue where a previous owner drilled out the plug to prevent idle mixture adjustments, then subsequently LOST THE IDLE MIXTURE SCREW. so, even though the car runs, I had to do some wonky adjustments to the carb linkage to get the engine to run, and my vac pressure still isn't right, so I am having shift-point issues. but such is life.

 

[78_200_C4]

I know that my six uses a Motorcraft 1946C (C for California emissions) carb, and the 1978/9 Ford Fairmont (Mercury Zephyr) distributor is one of the ones recomended to upgrade early sixties sixes to. so that might be something to look at if you want to move away from the Autolite. however the moto-1946C (don't know about the regular Moto-1946) really needs the EGR valve to work in order to tune the engine so you aren't dangerously lean at highway speeds.

my 1946C has a lovely issue where a previous owner drilled out the plug to prevent idle mixture adjustments, then subsequently LOST THE IDLE MIXTURE SCREW. so, even though the car runs, I had to do some wonky adjustments to the carb linkage to get the engine to run, and my vac pressure still isn't right, so I am having shift-point issues. but such is life.

A Holley 1946 idle mixture screw might work.
(The screw may have fell out because it didn't have spring on it.)
Holley 1946 Idle Mixture Screw - 16-143 $8.95

Holley 1946 1 Barrel Idle Mixture Screw 16-143

www.carburetor-parts.com

 

[bubba22349]

I know that my six uses a Motorcraft 1946C (C for California emissions) carb, and the 1978/9 Ford Fairmont (Mercury Zephyr) distributor is one of the ones recomended to upgrade early sixties sixes to. so that might be something to look at if you want to move away from the Autolite. however the moto-1946C (don't know about the regular Moto-1946) really needs the EGR valve to work in order to tune the engine so you aren't dangerously lean at highway speeds.

my 1946C has a lovely issue where a previous owner drilled out the plug to prevent idle mixture adjustments, then subsequently LOST THE IDLE MIXTURE SCREW. so, even though the car runs, I had to do some wonky adjustments to the carb linkage to get the engine to run, and my vac pressure still isn't right, so I am having shift-point issues. but such is life.

Hi R_Calris, as side note: I still have that 1980's Mustang Low Mileage 49 State Mortorcraft / Holley 1946 Carb and those Emissions system small parts.

 

[R_Calris]

Hi R_Calris, as side note: I still have that 1980's Mustang Low Mileage 49 State Mortorcraft / Holley 1946 Carb and those Emissions system small parts.

I am still interested, but finances tanked at the end of the year, and other things keep coming up. thanks for following up about it ^.^