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OCD and block assembly

Post #1 by 63falconATX » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:56 pm

About to drive a new dipstick tube into my refreshed block and realize I have no reference for dipstick depth into the pan.

200 block with 60's mustang/falcon pan. Does anyone know exactly how far below the bottom of the block the dipstick should extend?

Failing that I guess I can drive it in part ways and wait till its in the car with oil and drive it home.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: OCD and block assembly

Post #2 by bubba22349 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:15 pm

Don't know the exact amount but don't think it was very much maybe about 1/4 to 3/8 inch usally you can see how much it was in by the referance line on the old tube. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Re: OCD and block assembly

Post #3 by 63falconATX » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:22 pm

Unfortunately its a relocation in an E1 so the old tube and depth are of no help.

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Re: OCD and block assembly

Post #4 by Econoline » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:29 pm

You could tap the tube in just enough to hold it in there. Then once you have the engine filled w/ 4 1/2 Qt's and have you have run it tap it in until the dipstick is in the oil. Then measure the amount it needs tapped in further, put a ring of tape on the tube as a reference and tap it in the rest of the way. Assuming there isn't a step in the bore that holds the tube from going in to far. It's been so long since I did mine I can't remember.
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Re: OCD and block assembly

Post #5 by 63falconATX » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:55 pm

Yup, that's my fallback plan as noted in the original post. Probably the most accurate way to do it.

No step in the tube so it shouldn't be a problem.

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Post #6 by bubba22349 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:02 pm

Yep it's actually hard to drive them in very far, good luck :thumbup: :nod:
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Re: OCD and block assembly

Post #7 by drag-200stang » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:35 pm

Checked four 200 rear and front dip stick blocks, length of tube up from the block, exposed is 2.960'' same on all even a E1BB.
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Re: OCD and block assembly

Post #8 by Econoline » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:50 pm

2.960"

I like that
it's not 3" dang it :)
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Re: OCD and block assembly

Post #9 by drag-200stang » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:36 am

Yes missed it by that much :)
I may have mis read the op post and edited to be more accurate.
The height of the tube will position the dip stick at the right height.
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Post #10 by 63falconATX » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:39 am

Right On! Thanks fellas.

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Re: OCD and block assembly

Post #11 by 63falconATX » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:33 am

Next question, my cam is installed with spacer, dowel pin and thrust plate in correct orientation. Before putting the timing chainset on I notice the cam can move in/out as much as about .144". Is this normal? Does the timing gear work with the thrust plate to keep this all in check when running?

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wedding ring, cam pin, thrust plate 'slop'. Q on tolerances

Post #12 by chad » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:56 pm

may B a new thread will get U better/the most action (due to title & confusion)?

Duz mah subject line above do it justice?

(think a search would turn up this thread frm earlier - ?Spring '18?).
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Re: wedding ring, cam pin, thrust plate 'slop'. Q on tolerances

Post #13 by 63falconATX » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:54 pm

Thanks Chad. Not seeing the thread you are referring to. I always to a pretty good search before asking questions. Thats why I tend to be a thread hi-jacker...

At any rate it does look like the pulley will take up the slack.


chad wrote:may B a new thread will get U better/the most action (due to title & confusion)?

Duz mah subject line above do it justice?

(think a search would turn up this thread frm earlier - ?Spring '18?).

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Re: OCD and block assembly

Post #14 by bubba22349 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:29 pm

63falconATX wrote:Next question, my cam is installed with spacer, dowel pin and thrust plate in correct orientation. Before putting the timing chainset on I notice the cam can move in/out as much as about .144". Is this normal? Does the timing gear work with the thrust plate to keep this all in check when running?


Yes the Cams timing gear works togeather with the thrust plate to keep cam in correct position. It should have some clearance but I don't know if the .144 measurement is normal sounds a bit excessive. Did you happen to measure the cam spacer (wedding ring) thickness and the thrust plate thickness? I have seen some cam thrust plates that showed a lot of wear from oiling issues. Good luck :thumbup: :nod:
A bad day Drag Racing is still better than a good day at work!

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Re: OCD and block assembly

Post #15 by 63falconATX » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:01 pm

It pulled up just fine. Thanks.

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