chad":3ma8e5c2 said:
"...I had to wait 9 fricken years to …"
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'Numbers Dummy' over on FTE
A 30 yr socal gent who's retired to…nation wide nos & parts numbers for the ford truck community
BUT
has helped us as well.
I think he took home the ol microphis & lota hard copy (1950s - 2000 I think) from a big ford dealer when he left.
Avail by phone & net...
bubba22349 PM'd and forwarded Numbers Dummy at FTE too, but altough sensational and dedicated, with just Mic at Four Eyed Pride and bubba's help, I got everything sorted. That's the value of networking with watcha got.
Biggest issue, even before I got my Fox I6, was the miss-information.
Yes, there were H-UG-E changes to the 3.3 in the last 5 years of production,
1. Casting changes to Flywheels/Flexplates/Bellhousings/Clutches/Block pattern missinformation
2. Carbs
3. Emission Control
4. Axle ratios
5. Gearbox types (FoMoCo did no favours here, despite some of the best gearbox designs ever)
6. A/C kicker contols and bowl vent and secondary AIR changes.
7. Acessory drives
But the things I'm most sore about is the missinformation due to Fords all in VECI and "Electrical & Vacuum Troubleshooting Manual" that aren't 3.3 I6 specific. Finding that has been a mission, but the system is simply excellent, and a whole lot simpler and easier than MCU or early EECIV.
1. So its not true that all 1981 to 1983 engines are low mount, and parts do directly interchange if you follow the Modern Drive Line rules
2. No 78 to 83 3.3 I6 has ever had a feedback carb, and the 1946 carb flows around 200 cfm and is as huge as a Carter YFA
3. The 80-83 football catalyst does occassionally block up, but not always, and its free flowing, despite claims to the contrary
4. The con rods are cast iron, and downgraded from 1978 to 1983, which will case issues if raced.
5. The details on emissions transition from T, to B to X VIN codes for the 3.3, and L to C codes for the 4.1 is not clear, BUT DO EXIST
6. The Road and Track 1981 Mercury Capri RS 3.3 4 speed article had massive errors on carbs, horsepower and gearing options
7. This is not a b!+ch, but in addition to the Falcon Six Handbook guys, I got the greatest info from former member
Mark P on this message board. He spread a lot of pivotal, great info, but also some wrong minor stuff which ensured I spent a
long time looking in black rooms for black cats...that weren't even there in the first place. People like (but not limited to)
rickwrench,
super4ord
Jamie Miles,
Boyd,
vssman
rocklord
JackFish
BKNLINE
pikesan <-- Datsun, Datsun, and Sunny
Stormin' Norman esp
http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthread. ... nformation
and
Anusulac, and of course all the Mod Squad's team and the late Mike W...
It ACTUALLY got worse for me, as my Fox was the only Japanese Domestic Market 3.3 we've seen, and it had equiped a NON STANDARD O2 sensor/pyrometer, and that screwed me over so much for many years...into thinking later 3.3's were feedback carbs. They aren't! So I've seen the enemy. and it was me!
Its only now, 13+ years after
myles first post in Wed Dec 17, 2003 can be answered. And even here, I had access to the details, but I missinformed him too.
And I found him asking the same questions repeatedly on another forum rsulting from that miss-information...
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10597
Much of this ignorance related total miss-information has been debunked. Repeately.
This is especially pertinant to the wrong, and much repeated wrong info on transmissions and bellhousings which has taken thousands of man hours grazing the net, (and asking the same question sometimes five different ways), to debunk.
I applaud the Falcon Six Handbook guys, Dennis
Hot 6t Falcon and David
CZLN6, especially on undertaking what are the most diffcult Mailase era cars ever. Those guys have been pretty much on the money. In absence of better information, the book covers whole gammit of Falcon era upgrades.
What would ruin that book would be to have to include the last 15 years of info on those seven 1978 to 1983 matters.
I respect and have "stodden" on the shoulders of giants on this forum and others who have shared and passed on all the work done by everyone here.
But I gotta say....
The "IV year" 78 to 83 I6 3.3 Foxes, and
The 1975-1980 X-shell Granada/Monarch and
The 1975-1978 Maverick/Cometes
are all Very Differnent Cars with Very Different Engines, even though they look the same through 9 miles of emissions lines.....
And since this should be is a clutch and flywheel post in the transmission forum, not a 144-250 "Small Block" Six Performance matter
1. Gearboxes,
2. flywheels,
3. clutches,
4. Z-bar/clutch forks
are four double whammy devil items, and are the hardest if you don't have someone to talk to who has been there an done that. They come back at you like a clean room invites a mess. They become the eight woes of Mattityahu if you don't have a friend to see your way though it. You end up with information, but not a solution. Added detail, but no completed work.
Your solutions for those are
the search fucntion on this forum,
The Ford Falcon Six Cylinder Performance Handbook 1960-1970 also covers 85% of anything from 1960 to 1983, the last five years from 78 to 83 are Fox Fords, and a little different
(Get the book now via Matt Cox at Vintage inlines, put yourself on the mailing list, and also save US$4.99 on the best book ever
Follow this link
https://www.vintageinlines.com/miscellaneous )
Modern Drive Line,
the people listed in this post,
this link see
http://straightsixshootin.weebly.com/links.html
Earl Johnson in Central Texas at
hjhnracing@msn.com is also a member of the Mustang community, and he's well informed and just awesome.
and Paul Cangialosi, ( published author of Building and Modifying High Performance Manual Transmissions
https://www.amazon.com/Rebuild-Modify-H ... 1934709298).
I hope this has helped encourage you to push on an find info, because I6 engines for many years were the staple sales diet of millions of Mustangs, not the halo engines like SBF's and FE's and 429 Limas....I6 info, it is
all out there, and It s like so BITCHEN cuz like everybody's like
Super-super nice....!