Turbo with AC?

Alibaba91

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Anyone know of examples of cars (mustang/falcon) with a 200 with turbo and AC? There is nowhere to mount the AC compressor on the typical turbo setup with these cars, as the turbo extends into the location where the compressor goes.

I have a 65 Mustang personally.

I remember seeing one photo of somebody who put the turbo over by where the voltage regulator goes and plumbed piping all the way from the exhaust side over to the driver side, and then through an intercooler back to the carb. Kind of the reverse routing of the typical turbo setup on these cars. I don't particularly like the idea of keeping so much of the exhaust tubing inside the engine bay itself. Sounds like a recipe for overheating. I've also heard that excessively long tubing will increase lag, but I don't know if this qualifies as excessively long. As this will be a street car, a lag will reduce drive ability so I would like to avoid it as much as possible.
 
I discussed using the 2.3 liter Capri/Mustang Carb turbo on a 200 F150 conversion back in 2016 from a guy in Alaska.

The old search engine doesnt work proprtly, but I got an email from Travis in Alaska. I'll have to remember his user name.

Anyway, PowerNations 292 Chev in line turbo uses the system with a 4bbl Holley Sniper and Pat made almost 400 hp on not very much boost.

The pictures you remember were of the 1979-1982 Fox Mustang 2.3 carb turbo idea, but on the 292 Chevy turbo six.

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Right, there is definitely potential for the engine with a turbo, but my problem is routing with the AC. I didn't see them address that issue in the PN video. Did I miss something?
 
I have a 67 turbo 200 mustang with AC. The turbo sits behind the passenger side shock tower, and the AC compressor is under the alternator. I don't have a good picture, but maybe this will help.
 

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I have a 67 turbo 200 mustang with AC. The turbo sits behind the passenger side shock tower, and the AC compressor is under the alternator. I don't have a good picture, but maybe this will help.
Thanks! I would definitely appreciate if you could snap more pics.
If you have an intervooler, do you have any issues with overheating having having the condenser, intercooler, and radiator all up front? (Although it looks like you piped some of the AC in the fender well?)
 
The pictures xctasy and I posted gives you a good idea of the space you will have. If you move the battery to the truck you will gain valuable space. I did run the A.C. lines in the fender well to keep them away from heat(It also looks cleaner) The car does run hot around town. I,m using an electric fan that is to small. I am in the process of installing a bigger one. On the open road the car stays cool. If you click on my avatar you can see how the inter cooler and condenser fit in front of the fan.
 
Anyone know of examples of cars (mustang/falcon) with a 200 with turbo and AC? There is nowhere to mount the AC compressor on the typical turbo setup with these cars, as the turbo extends into the location where the compressor goes.
 

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So the "
" video clearly showed how the turbo was mounted on the opposite side where it doesn't touch the ancillaries.
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Sadly, the Tower of Babel has discombobulated all my old post pictures and links but you have three choice. I can't even search my old posts. Any way, the choices are:

1. Left mount turbo like the carb 2.3 liter Mustang.
2. Left mount Air Conditioning like the early 65-66 dealer fitted Mustang or some of the 4.9 liter truck Air Con systems
3. High mount the turbo like derangedford90


See https://fordsix.com/threads/six-barrel-econo-log.72562/

xctasy said:
If you want A/C with a turbo, you'll have to do a left hand mount like the early 64.5 to 1967 set ups.

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see derangedford90's 1980 Ford Fairmont




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I've been toying with different stock compressor V-belt mounting brackets to see what would work best with a Sanden. I found that a 1983-1986 bracket works really well. If the Sanden is bolted to the face of the bracket the V-belt lines up perfectly if you have a 3-groove water pump pulley/damper. I chopped down the upper mounting bracket and installed a tension adjuster instead. All that's needed is a spacer between the rear compressor mounting ear and the bracket. Easy installation.

http://www.ckdesign-inc.com/images/Compressor/Sanden1.JPG
http://www.ckdesign-inc.com/images/Compressor/Sanden2.JPG
http://www.ckdesign-inc.com/images/Compressor/Sanden3.JPG
http://www.ckdesign-inc.com/images/Compressor/1983to1986.jpg
 
pikesan posted a lot of truly lovely info here on a/c. Most of the problems on turbo verses Air conditioning is pure ignorance.

Modern Sanden units are a smaller diameter barrel that are actually longer and create other problems


"https://www.vintage-mustang.com/threads/200-cid-inline-6-ac-bracket.1147300/"

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Somewhere I have an Eric the car guy photo low mount AC unit from 1979.

That places the a/c right down by the sway bar mount on the passenger side


1978-1979 T code 200's with the early Holley 1946

ETCG Gets a New Car! -EricTheCarGuy 79 I6 Fairmont!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L22G...U14Vt7JJ_QSZvs
 
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100_2831_zpsosls9edj.jpgwould a Pontiac 301 turbo setup help? It would keep everything tucked back on the passenger side. Im looking to sell mine. $300 without carburetor
 
This is awesome. Thanks for all the info, xctasy.

Appreciate the offer on the 301, but hood clearance looks like a problem, and I love the stock 64 mustang hood too much.
 
Denial usually means your actually doing it, but I am not anti GM HEI or DUI, but sure am aghast at how much space it takes up that could be utilized for AC or a turbo. If AC wont fit on the drivers side because you have a big cap HEI, AND YOU WANT A TURBO.

Try this.

Link "https://www.fordsix.com/threads/stock-dizzy-with-phased-rotor.81668/#post-640271"


If Frankensteining is yo thang....


the Vortech 4300 cap on the DUI based on the old HEI might work. If you want vac advance. MaxCubes on jalopyjournal.com does this conversion.


See the for pages on "https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/lowering-an-hei-distributor-cap.1036766/page-4"


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You take a stock V6 HEI or DUI, and cut the cap and epoxy a Vortec 4300 cap on it, and use an E core coil in the stock place.
 
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