$1500 to spend
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Ok, where to begin....
1. Visit the local junkyard to pull a head off of any 200 (the years should be '77 or later) then send it to the machine shop for it to be milled and have a 3 angle valve job. Cost= $300
2. And to take advantage of your better flowing head use a carb of a '69 Mustang 250, or you can go all out and get a double barrel Holley 350cfm with the appropiate adapter (I got my Holley off of ebay brand-new for $180) Cost= $50 (for '69 250 carb) to $275 (for the Holley set-up)
3. Swap out the Pertronix ignition for a Duraspark II (can also be found on the car you take the head off of in the junkyard) Cost= $50
4. Dual Out headers into dual out exhaust is a must. A better breathing engine makes more horsepower. Cost= $300-$800
Now assuming you used all of the most expensive parts available you should be out somewhere just below $1500 (play it safe). But if you can find good deals, and you have money left over, you should spend your money on a decent brake system. Whether it be a cheaper Granada disk coversion or a full on aftermarket system remember you HAVE to be able to stop before you can go.
1. Visit the local junkyard to pull a head off of any 200 (the years should be '77 or later) then send it to the machine shop for it to be milled and have a 3 angle valve job. Cost= $300
2. And to take advantage of your better flowing head use a carb of a '69 Mustang 250, or you can go all out and get a double barrel Holley 350cfm with the appropiate adapter (I got my Holley off of ebay brand-new for $180) Cost= $50 (for '69 250 carb) to $275 (for the Holley set-up)
3. Swap out the Pertronix ignition for a Duraspark II (can also be found on the car you take the head off of in the junkyard) Cost= $50
4. Dual Out headers into dual out exhaust is a must. A better breathing engine makes more horsepower. Cost= $300-$800
Now assuming you used all of the most expensive parts available you should be out somewhere just below $1500 (play it safe). But if you can find good deals, and you have money left over, you should spend your money on a decent brake system. Whether it be a cheaper Granada disk coversion or a full on aftermarket system remember you HAVE to be able to stop before you can go.
maybe do what I did? I am only up to 1000 something now and HOPEFULLY I will get a package or 2 tomorrow (teflon valve seals, springs, and dual roller timing chain) and will take it to the machine shop and depending on what I figure out tonight I might have the head planed alot and raise the compression ratio... so far my list includes:
Head from a 79 mustang 200ci...........................................$65
3 angle, milling, fixing crack milling to accomidate 2bbl.......$250
duraspark module, and dizzy..............................................$65
pacemaker header with shipping.......................................$350
holley 500cfm carb..........................................................$220
plugs and wires................................................................$50
Head from a 79 mustang 200ci...........................................$65
3 angle, milling, fixing crack milling to accomidate 2bbl.......$250
duraspark module, and dizzy..............................................$65
pacemaker header with shipping.......................................$350
holley 500cfm carb..........................................................$220
plugs and wires................................................................$50
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Umm, have yall been following posts? $1500 is about what that Southern Cross guy wants for the brand new heads, headers, and intakes that he is making. The new design eliminates a lot of the fundamental design problems of the original American head. I would just wait and get one of his or else one from FSPP although I haven't seen any prices on theirs yet.
And a DSII ignition system and some kinda new carb. So that puts you a couple hundred over but you would have a good ride, and something noone has seen before.
-Dan in Atlanta
And a DSII ignition system and some kinda new carb. So that puts you a couple hundred over but you would have a good ride, and something noone has seen before.
-Dan in Atlanta
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The log head rules!!!!!!!!!!!
later,
Curtis
later,
Curtis
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Check here;
http://www.southerncrossperformance.com/
http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22948)http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22948
Also, I am not necessarily advocating this head because I have not seen any numbers for it yet. As I understand it, this head will be ready relatively soon, but around the end of the year there should be another head ready from FSPP. Until the prices and performance numbers of each head are known I personally would not make a decision.
But I do definitely think it makes a heck of a lot more sense to buy a new, superior head instead of an old one that you are going to have to put a lot of time and effort into for minimal gains.
-Dan in Atlanta
http://www.southerncrossperformance.com/
http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22948)http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22948
Also, I am not necessarily advocating this head because I have not seen any numbers for it yet. As I understand it, this head will be ready relatively soon, but around the end of the year there should be another head ready from FSPP. Until the prices and performance numbers of each head are known I personally would not make a decision.
But I do definitely think it makes a heck of a lot more sense to buy a new, superior head instead of an old one that you are going to have to put a lot of time and effort into for minimal gains.
-Dan in Atlanta
Howdy Mr.M and All:
My suggestion would be for your to keep your money in your pocket, buy a shop manual for your vehicle (about $50), stay tuned here and read, read, read. The 1st thing you need is information and knowledge.
The 2nd is a plan. It should be based on your own goals for this vehicle. It should be balanced, complete and affordable.
While you're putting this together, start with a basic tune up, but add an additional 5 degrees of initial advance.
Next, give us more info about your vehicle; trans type? rear gearing? miles/condition? And more info on your intended use of the car?
But most of all enjoy the journey.
Adios, David
My suggestion would be for your to keep your money in your pocket, buy a shop manual for your vehicle (about $50), stay tuned here and read, read, read. The 1st thing you need is information and knowledge.
The 2nd is a plan. It should be based on your own goals for this vehicle. It should be balanced, complete and affordable.
While you're putting this together, start with a basic tune up, but add an additional 5 degrees of initial advance.
Next, give us more info about your vehicle; trans type? rear gearing? miles/condition? And more info on your intended use of the car?
But most of all enjoy the journey.
Adios, David
I would hold onto it. maybe do an adaptor with a holley 350 and a cam. duraspark would also be a must (note that these are universal mods you would make on any setup) forming a game plan and sticking to that will keep costs down some.
CZLN6":djuwveia said:
Hi David,
I do have the FSM, and, thanks to you having sent me my Falcon Performance Handbook last week, I'm already set for manuals. I've got it timed at about 14, and I've tuned the mighty Autolite 1100 to where it seems to be happy. It's a bone stock (except Pertronix) 65 Mustang vert. C4 Auto, 109K miles, no clue as to what rear it has...except that it's an 8". It's in great shape, and I use it for an in season daily driver. As in, if the weather is such that the top must be up, it stays in the garage. It's a great cruiser. I've had it to 75 mph, but it takes a while to get there. I don't want to 289/302/351 it, but I'd like more a** in it.
that's pretty much about it.
cheers,
Tim Jonas
aka MrMootsie
Howdy Back:
Many owners of sweet cars like yours are interested in maintaining originality- or at least, stock appearances. Is that a concern to you?
On your drivers side door frame is a building code tag. One of the boxes will have the word "Axle". It will have a number or letter below it. That is the code for your rear gear ratio, assuming that the rear is stock. A 1 = a 3.00:1 open differential, rear gear. Check your Service Manual for code ID.
Glad to hear you have our Handbook. It should be a help in planning a comprehensive package. It will not help you if you are planning to go to a non-USA log head. That area is too expensive and too unstable for us to afford to explore. But, there are many on this forum who are gaining info and insight on exotic heads and sharing. Alloy heads may be emerging soon that will change this.
Adios, David
Many owners of sweet cars like yours are interested in maintaining originality- or at least, stock appearances. Is that a concern to you?
On your drivers side door frame is a building code tag. One of the boxes will have the word "Axle". It will have a number or letter below it. That is the code for your rear gear ratio, assuming that the rear is stock. A 1 = a 3.00:1 open differential, rear gear. Check your Service Manual for code ID.
Glad to hear you have our Handbook. It should be a help in planning a comprehensive package. It will not help you if you are planning to go to a non-USA log head. That area is too expensive and too unstable for us to afford to explore. But, there are many on this forum who are gaining info and insight on exotic heads and sharing. Alloy heads may be emerging soon that will change this.
Adios, David
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Does10s":60vhew5q said:TURBO!
Yeah, I agree with Does10s.
The acceleration has to be experienced to be believed. I have a 100% bone stock 200 from a 1982 Mustang that is getting abused regularly with 20 psi of boost, and the engine hasn't complained one bit.
You can see the build up here:
http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24859
I am trying to work the bugs out for:
1) My own personal satisfaction of achieving something unique!
2) Others that are watching me closely to see where the successes are made, so that they can duplicate my set-up for their own wicked, twisted addictions to accelerationus rapidus!
Linc's 200":223o74ac said:
are those real words?
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hasa68mustang":33emwwti said:Linc's 200":33emwwti said:
are those real words?
They are now :roll: .
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Uhhh.....they are from the old coyote/road runner cartoons...I thought it was fitting!
