Ancillary drive kit for small sixes

[xctasy]

I'm working on an ancillary belt and pulley kit for small sixes. For A/C, AIR pump, alternator and power steering. Also looking at an A/c delete Supercharger kit or A/C only kit which runs a heavy duty iron bar like Argentinas air conditioned 188 and 221 Falcon sixes had. A strong part which also has a strong idler which would suit either non standard a/c applications or supercharged applications, and would clear large body distributors.

Type 1 : I have the stock 1978-1982 S-shell/Fox and 1979 to 1982 Mustang 3.3 six system pretty well locked down. Its the same as these (82 Granada 1st two, Mustang 2nd one):


Type 2: X-shell for US 250 up to 1980. This is a Monarch 4.1, last year made. Typical of Fords engineering, they swapped air pump and a/c positions between the Fox body and X-cars. 4.1 and 250's generally followed the V8 York or Selectair air con pump position on drivers side.


Type 3: Generic A/C kit for either US or Oz 200/250, but also an M112 Supercharger kit if A/C is deleted.
I'm planning on using the Argentine over cylinder head bracket to hold the A/C unit in the standard V8 postion as per my mates 1979 Indy with 86 5.0 EFI. If needed, it can then be used to hold an M112 supercharger, clearing any distributor. Here are the photos I found on the net which cover my inspiration:
My mates Indy 79 with 86 sefi.
Shot 1 and 2 of the Argie 221 SP with 86 V8 style A/C,
Show pic of Falcon with Paton Supercharger in V8 ac position,
and where we all want to be, our first Classic Inlines head with a running supercharger, a Bronco,using the V8 A/c position for its supercharger.

 

[MPGmustang]

I like this, I'm intrested in a super charger in the v8 AC position, my AC currently is where the stock ALT is and the ALT is moved up,
for mounting holes you can have the braket over the front for stability, and the stock coil holes for the base. for the super I bet it would be smarter to run an electric gas pump to be able to use the bolt holes down there as well as most would put a plate over the hole. Very intresting, this got me thinking...
refering to baldricks supered 250, you can also mount the super below the long shafted DUI... but this i would take alot more custom modification to setup properly, the only benefit would be easier access to the top of the DUI, possibly plugs...

stupid question, "Can a super charger running 4-8 boost, be ran on a 'V' belt? or will different serpentine like belts be a must? what about 2 'V' belts?

I think if you can make a braket to mount the super to clear the DUI, run off of 'V' belt(s), I would be the first customer to be calling for one.

Thank you for all the pic's!!!

 

[65coupei6]

stupid question, "Can a super charger running 4-8 boost, be ran on a 'V' belt? or will different serpentine like belts be a must? what about 2 'V' belts?

I think if you can make a braket to mount the super to clear the DUI, run off of 'V' belt(s), I would be the first customer to be calling for one.

Thank you for all the pic's!!!

I was wondering the same thing.

Or maybe a system like Mustangaroo in the stock location.

 

[bubba22349]

As far as using V belts it was quite common as were chain drives on the early blown engines

 

[chad]

"...a Bronco,using the V8 A/c position..."
Can't believe the hight of all that stuff on top of the I6 fits under the hood. I got a car 170 some 1 put in near 30 yrs ago who's YF hits the bronk's hood. Suspension lift, BL and "slotting" the motor mounts must have been the minimum done...
The SC bracket is how long? What were they on & for - oem?
Thanks, X.

 

[xctasy]

This is the reason I love non cross flow engines...heaps of space to supercharge.

Old fashioned V-belts can be used if you have to be so crass, but why would you. Three or four used to be the go for old GMC blower kits for side valve Fords. Glimer or helical Glimer are probably over kill. Since Fords landmark 5.0 Mustang Fox serpentine drive in 1979, the ribbed belt has proven it'll do just about anything from fan clutched Hummer A/C pump in war to MP112 blowers on the race track without any real problems. An M90 is a great 90 cubic inch blower. My friend has found on the 231 Buick engines, the 73 and 85 cubic inch Japanes Ogura, SC 12 and SC 14's are only good to 195 and 230 hp respectively without an intercooler, so 300 hp looks like a good limit to an M90 if it hasn't been gasflowed or intercooled.

Size is not much different, 2.5 to 3" or so.

Baldricks uses the confined of all the XK 2000 series Fords spring towers. It needed to access the ignition, so he limited it to using the M90, but an M112 might fit if you moved the S/C upwards a little, and then worked through the intercooler and srping tower brace options.

M90 Eaton is 7.8" case and 16.4" respectively for a 6 rib is http://www.capa.com.au/pics/eaton_M90_drawing.gif
Specific variations of the many M112 Eaton is 10.8" case and 18.9" respectively for the 8 rib pulley item http://www.capa.com.au/pics/eaton_MP112_drawing.gif.

The M112 ia able to be made lower than the M90, 5.4" is then nominal standard height for each.

 

[chad]

2.5 - 5.25 is the hight range in inches above the motor? Hummm...