wagon":fgr5e533 said:
So I was mostly correct, I apologise for anywhere I was wrong in my previous posting. The 5R55 was not used until the FG model. From EA2-BA all autos fitted were a variant on the 85LE transmission; a 4-speed auto. The BA trans is similar internally to the 'earlier' 4-speed autos with an extra solenoid (not sure what it was for). The EA2-AU 4 speed auto can be easily controlled by using the EA2/EB1 transmission controller and MAYBE the V8 controller upto the EL (I haven't tried, but the pinout & wiring hookup is nearly identical).
Yes, pretty much on the money. It's all good. The US 5R55 in all its incarnations isn't EXACTLY the same as the FG Falcon and 08-10 Territory 5speed auto, but almost everything bar the casing is interchangable. Its not like the old C9 bellhousing, where the US import Aussie market C4 trans which found its way in as a option on eveything 6 cylinder from 1971 to 1980. You can import pan fill and case fill C4 and C5 transmissions, and fit 'em onto everything I4, I6, V6 and V8. Only two model years makes the 5R55S more plentifull than an M code 250 2V head, but most people wouldn't ever know. It'd say about 12000 units were made over the late Naughties, about the same as the 170 HP 2v engine option.
Cool23[quote:fgr5e533 said:
90% would not get jobs back if I had my way and yes it is true as I asked about a US Gearbox and Ford Australia could only tell me about the Australian versions and the gearbox from the US I asked about they new nothing about at all, had no information on or could tell me what it was used for. Mind you my opinion of Ford has sunk very low after they closed many of the small country dealerships and the bigger dealerships have no idea how to look after customers.
Ford SUCKS big time (with Customer relations) as far as I am concerned and lost the scheme of how to look after customers in the country. To get to my nearest dealer now is an hours drive both ways.
As for the parts wallies, well, that's the industry in general. In New Zealand, they didn't do such a drasdtic cut and slice of dealerships.
My parts guru down here in Dunedin has forgotten more than many people will ever know about Falcon sixes. I'd honestly be lost without his support. However, he still gets it wrong over various things, but, as he says, he doesn't deal in pre 1965 Falcons, but the computer still has all the parts, and lists of very valuable parts. Like the 170/200 cylinder head on the 1964 to 1967 XM/XP/XR Falcons, he told me the stock multilayer Monotorque gasket wasn't the standard head gasket, but it is. On his computer, the US steel gasket is still listed, so Right and Wrong need qualifications when your asking Yes No answers from a parts guy. There is like 20000 parts in a car, and every one of them is completly changed between six months and 45 years. Although a 1965 XP 170 or 200 will take a 2012 Starter motor just fine
We can't do without Fords dedication to parts and supply because it is a portal to how the Big Three in Aussie farmed out there carbs, gearboxes, diff and other component bases between each other in a Button Plan way, years before 85% content and model sharing. Like temperature sender units, Bosch rotor caps, Bendix-Stromberg carbs, Borg Warner gearboxes, diffs and Bishops Kirby Steering boxes, the Aussie stuff from Ford, Holden and Chrysler still has amazing aftermarket support because the US to Aussie parts still exist on catalogues somewhere, and its a huge amount of fun making it fit up.
When putting a 1963 casting head on my 1981-1983 Mustang Mongrel, I had to use
1.a 1967 Oz XR head gasket, a whole section of
2 and 3 special brass and alloy adaptors to mate up the 80's Fox car brake booster and water temperature senders
4. a special 1909 Holley to 1978-1983 "1946 Holley 1-bbl".
5,6 and 7 Special fan A/C and AIR belts, but not any real hassles.
8 The plugs I had to go to NGK from the stock Autolite plugs.
9. Devcon for the bits I broke on an engine in pristine condition, but only 40 000 miles
10, 11, 12, 13 . A whole raft of Aussie non cross flow [three 1980-1986 TVS tree sensors] and Cross flow 1963 to 1990 emissions and vacum tree parts just to get my car running right, and I have an engine analyser and it still took a few hours.
14 and 15 Upper radiator goose neck (1972-1990 Falcon), radiator hose (a.c Falcon XE)
16 adjustable valve gear which hits the baffle in the Fox body I6 rocker cover, and required 17, and alloy thick adaptor and longer imperial bolts and 18 emissions spec fuel line and all clips of a simialr quality to the earlier stuff
18 changes just for the earlier small chamber LOG head which is exactly the same as the US version. A bit of work, and three weeks of my time when I could have been earning 22 dollars an hour instead, a loss 2400 bux.
Brake N Transmission(BNT), Repco, APPCO, and Dunedin City Motors (Ford and Mazda parts) did an awesome job and 95% on the time, they knew there stuff, and were indespensible. But a 1968-1990 I-6 water temperature sensor won't work on an 1981 Mustang Fox, and radiator top hoses are close, but not a perfect match despite very similar engineering from Accross the Ocean. I cobled up a lot of those 13 things twice to get a non junky result.
If it s difficult to support the Aussie into US car thing with an XM to Fox body head swap, I think a LOT MORE work will have to be done to sort out a DOHC to US Fox conversion.
So temp and fuel delivery sensors, hoses, ignition, egr/air/emissions package, cat configurationto suit parent to donar chassis trans intechage info , vehicle speed sensors , power steering conventions, belts, thermostates and breakout codes for body control, ecm and transmission just need more of this friendly interchange we have here
Interesting all the US 250, 240, & 300 blocks would use that same block pattern as the Windsors & 302 / 5.0 V8's. We have a 2001 Escape has 3.0L V6 and it's only a 4 speed but it can move out quite good. Had a couple of the early Rangers with 4.0L V6's first one was a 5 speed stick other I think about a 96 or 7 and was only the 4 speed auto too. I did not hear much on the 5 speed autos before a few years ago do you think it can handle the torque of the big six? The car I am building would weight in at around 2500 to 2800 pounds. I guess didn't keep up very well on all the late model trans tech the last few years. 
