Carbs+Cam

Inline6Merc

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I was wondering, by running 3 1bbl's carbs would upgrading to a beefy cam be a good idea? Why change a cam on a 200 at all? Would a daul pattern cam work the best? By changing the fuel system on a six, does it require more duration?

Thanks

later,

Curtis
 
Howdy Curtis:

"Running 3 1bbl's carbs would upgrading to a beefy cam be a good idea?"
Yes, a more agressive cam would allow the engine to work in a higher rpm range, which will take advantage of the additional cfm of the tri carbs.

"Why change a cam on a 200 at all?"
Cam timing determines many characteristics of an engine; idle quality, power range, peak HP and peak torque. Of course other facters are interrelated and interdependent, such as, carburetion, CR, ignition and exhaust. Changing cam is a way to change the character of an engine. With out 200s, a stock OEM cam makes for a low and slow, smooth idle, high vacuum, economical, low end torque engine. Bu changing cams you can improve on these qualities or go for a completely different set of characteristics.

"Would a daul pattern cam work the best?"
A dual pattern cam typically uses longer duration on the exhaust cycle. They were 1st found to be benificial for engines with a restrictive exhaust port design. NASCAR engine builders found some benefit at restrictor plate tracks. These improvements were at sustained, high rpm situations. That is usually not the case for our small sixes.

For our engines, a dual pattern cam may have some advantage with a shorter intake duration (Milder) and a longer exhaust duration (Wilder) in the same engine. Other factors will also enter into the final out come.

"By changing the fuel system on a six, does it require more duration?"
No, it is not required to change the cam as a result of a change to the fuel system. In the case of the tri-carbs the visual, coolness factor is impressive all by itself. To take performance advantage of the additional CFM capibilities of a Tri set-up, several other upgrades would be needed; increase in cam duration and valve lift, increased compression, specific ignition timing and improved exhaust.

A stock engine will likely show some performance gains with additional carburetion. To fully utilize the potential, a coordinated engine package is the ideal.

Now, a question for you. What is your ultimate goal? What is your plan for your engine?

Adios, David
 
I think the best benefit of any cam swap is the added lift of the valves allowing the engine to breath better. It opens the valves up about an additional 20-25%.

Slade
 
Thanks for the information, very helpful! My plan for my engine is:

1969 flat top manifold- everything done to it suggested in the Ford Falcon Performance handbook
3 1bbl carbs
headers
1.6 roller rockers
Cam- im leaning towards the 264/274 FFSP cam
9.5:1 compression
Electronic Ignition

Thats what i have in plan for my engin build up. Any other suggestions?

thanks,

Curtis
 
I had a similiar set up and run a Comp Cam 260H. It gives a very smooth idle which I think you'll really need for the 3-1V set up. The 264 should work as well.

Slade
 
I have a COMP 260 and am using a YF from a 75 250 on my 66 200. I am having trouble with the idle quality. I thought it might be the cam but after reading the above posts I am inclined to think it may be the carb. This was a rebuilt carb I bought on eBay. It smooths out nicely above idle, but idles poorly( especially when cold) unless I set up the idle speed a little on the high side. Is this carb just too big for my 200? I did raise the compression to about 9.2 by decking the block and milling the head. The head is a large bore '77. I also pocket ported and gasket matched the head. I have a Holly 1946 I thought I might try. Would I have better luck with a Holley/Weber from Stovebolt? Any input would be appreciated.
 
I don't think the carb is too big and it shouldn't be the cam. Mine idles really smooth at 600 RPM. My guess is the carb may have been poorly rebuilt. Don't overlook simple timing and tuning as well.

Slade
 
I installed the 1946(one of the old Holley Economasters) in place of the YF and the idle improved quite a bit. I have the timing set at 10 before tdc. I think I will also check the valve adjustment and maybe do a compression check. Thanks for the input.
 
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