crossflow head...is that what I want?

[Anonymous]

somebody told me this about crossflow heads

"You don't want a crossflow head. If you go crossflow you have to go with a complete motor as the crossflow head is wider than the standard head.
What you are after is the Aussie 250 2V head that bolts right up to the 6
you already have."


is that correct? Is a crossflow different than a 250 2v? I tought I was looking for a "crossflow 250 2v"

when looking, what should I ask for specifically?

Chaz

 

[xctasy]

They be right on!

The 250 2V, 188/221 Maxi Eccono, and 188/221 SP heads are all non-cross flow Aussie/Argentine heads which were made in reasonable numbers. They have the intake on the US passenger side for left hooker cars. They are deadringers for US log manifolds, but had special alloy intake manifolds that were detachable.

The Australian cross flow 200 (3.3)/250(4.1) heads were designed to fit on an Aussie block which was US 250 like, but with most of the US 200 engine mount and pan details, with a halfway house bellhousing pattern which is a pain in the butt to Aussies, Kiwis, and Americans alike. To make this cross flow/x-flow head fit, the Aussies had to build the blocks wider to cover the splayed pushrods that the Cleveland-style head needed to work. Another pain in the butt. 8) But even though there are people like Jack working on making an X-flow head fit on a US block, you're better off ordering a 250 2V head, that's all you need to say. Or a 188/221 ME or SP Argentine head.

Just to confuse things more, there are iron or alloy X-flow heads too, but they all use porcupine-style splayed valves. (Iron from 1976 to 1980 or so, alloy from mid 1980 to 1992).

 

[Anonymous]

can anybody post a picture? I want to sho wthe guy what I want. I know some of you have the 250 2v's on your stangs...

 

[CoupeBoy]

Oz 2v

and this thread for lots of Argie head pics
http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3569

should about cover ya
-ron

 

[Anonymous]

as usual, you guys came thru.

I emaile dthe guy I am trying to get wa head off of...I hope it helps.
Thanks

 

[Anonymous]

GO HERE IT HAS A FEW PICS OF THE ARGENTINA MAX ECONO HEAD

http://www.geocities.com/tazzrap982/83F ... 200I6.html

 

[Anonymous]

http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3569

 

[Anonymous]

what is the crossflow part # i never even knew they made one i am not to sure about the aussie head i want to keep my motor american or i would get one they look like a good head, but i dont want to have to do a valve job or anything just get it in and bolt it on is what i am looking for

 

[Anonymous]

No part numbers or anything like that. The crossflow is also Aussie, it is the thing that they made after they were done with the 2v heads. The only way to get one of these is to have a nice Australian or Argentinian ship one up to you. Otherwise you want to look for a later year American head for best performance.

 

[Anonymous]

The only way to get one of these is to have a nice Australian or Argentinian ship one up to you.

that's what I am trying to do...gotta love the internet.

I heard they have the internet on computers now....

 

[rancheroman]

If I'm not mistaken, there is a fellow in Portland Oregon, a.k.a ausseheads that specializes in complete aussie crossflow engines. you should check him out, he has these engines and parts 'in stock'.
Hope this helps. Paul

 

[Anonymous]

PM Martin, "Souther Cross Racer", he's nice Argentinian with several MEs and SPs. Great guy and he won't charge you an arm and a leg for crating and the package is delivered to your door.

DB

 

[Anonymous]

yeah, but these people , well the guy in portland, knows what he has> I am looking for an aussie who just is shipping a part instead of the solve-all head...

basically, I am looking for CHEAP... since my wife has all my money ( plus the IRS today)

 

[addo]

Well, there's no such thing as a free lunch. I am currently shipping to a couple of people, but several others died of old age waiting (I do it in my very limited spare time for no service charge). :roll:

Phil's a decent bloke. He's got real-world costs to address, and it's a business to him. Remember, your hobby is someone else's "bread and butter". People might gripe about the expenses of building or remodelling a house, but they ultimately accept the costs as fair and legitimate. It's gotta be the same here with parts.

And Martín survives on an Argentinian wage that wouldn't be seen even as pocket money for a lot of youngsters in the US.

Just my 2¢.

Adam.

 

[rancheroman]

'Well said' Adam

 

[Anonymous]

Hey chazthephoenix,

Price wise you'll end up paying <i>about</i> the same whether you go Argentine or Aussie including shipping. The question is which design do YOU think will give you the better performance.

Me, I imported several 2Vs last year but decided to sell them all and buy an Argentine head for many reasons. One reason being that I believe that I can get maybe a couple more horsies using the Argentine head while staying with the US block.

DB

 

[Anonymous]

Well, there's no such thing as a free lunch. I am currently shipping to a couple of people, but several others died of old age waiting (I do it in my very limited spare time for no service charge). :roll:

Phil's a decent bloke. He's got real-world costs to address, and it's a business to him. Remember, your hobby is someone else's "bread and butter". People might gripe about the expenses of building or remodelling a house, but they ultimately accept the costs as fair and legitimate. It's gotta be the same here with parts.

And Martín survives on an Argentinian wage that wouldn't be seen even as pocket money for a lot of youngsters in the US.

Just my 2¢.

Adam.

You or JD or whoever else should just say ok I'll find a head for you and ship it. Its going to take about a month and I'm charging -this much- for my services.

 

[addo]

Chaz, I wasn't trying to sound grouchy, just wanted to show there's two sides to the situation. Believe me, I would love it if 2V heads were the norm. Several times last year, I was shunted out of deals (verbal agreements) by other people overbidding. All I wanted were a couple of good heads - one for Chris, one for Leroy. But the hype that's enveloped them meant that the seller decided my word wasn't as good as the extra cash.

So, I'm inclined to leave it to the "experts". They buy the goods, carry the risks, deal with the customers and inquiries, and earn the profits.

kc, as a carpenter who specialises in nice old houses (restoration and authentic remodelling/extensions), you can probably work out what my hourly is close to. If I were to charge accordingly while "headhunting", the product becomes unviable. It's nice to give some time now and then to a non-mercenary fellow hobbyist. That's why I end up just doing a little "errand running" for a few. It'll see a 221 reach San Jose in a few weeks, among other things.

Adam.