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Being a musician, I've known of people having their saxophones torn down and cryogenically frozen. Supposedly, it realigns atoms and releases stress in the metal and all that good stuff. Kinda always thought of it as "voodoo," but who knows, it might actually have merit.
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I have also heard of this and it makes sense....Those plastic wheels that they used to put on bicyles would bend if you lande on a jump too hard or something similar. if you put them in the freezer overnight, they would take their shape back again. Of course some plastics dont do that...
I have heard of this before with something, but i can thinkof it off the top of my head at the moment.
Very cool!
Adam
I have heard of this before with something, but i can thinkof it off the top of my head at the moment.
Very cool!
Adam
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Firearm accuracy . . . hmmmm . . . there must be a witty answer to that question, Evan, but I'm not witty, alas! So, considering it seriously, maybe it changes barrel flexibility and harmonic damping, or some-such. The bench-rest crowd have endless information on this; I believe they have strobe-photos of barrels whipping around during and after firing. Where's SuperMag?
I too have read reports that indicate an improvement in accuracy but it requires an extremely accurate gun to begin with. Not quite sure how it works though. I do know of chipper and planer knives for use in sawmills being cryo treated for better life. It works but it is debateable if it is cost effective.
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I've never actually SEEN a bench-rest meet, Mag. Didn't know practice was involved; I thought these things were won and lost on the lathe in the basement. Being utterly uninformed, I took a wild swing at Evan's offering. Even worse, when I offered up the cryo site, I had only glanced over it myself. Guess I'll go study it now.
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Ditto what SR said- practice & many sets of the right round.
I had my rotors treated, along with my cam followers. The followers also received a DFL coating. When I finally get it running, I'll let ya know if it was worth it.
My brother is partners with a guy who also owns a cryo shop (does mostly industrial stuff, but id doing more auto / aero stuff). He gave us all cryo'd disposable razors (a promo item); it lasted 3 months on deployment, whereas I normally get 2 weeks tops out of a Mach 3, etc.
When they make higher capacity zero-temp units, the cost will come down, as that's one of the big limitations preventing your local coating shop from getting into it.
I had my rotors treated, along with my cam followers. The followers also received a DFL coating. When I finally get it running, I'll let ya know if it was worth it.
My brother is partners with a guy who also owns a cryo shop (does mostly industrial stuff, but id doing more auto / aero stuff). He gave us all cryo'd disposable razors (a promo item); it lasted 3 months on deployment, whereas I normally get 2 weeks tops out of a Mach 3, etc.
When they make higher capacity zero-temp units, the cost will come down, as that's one of the big limitations preventing your local coating shop from getting into it.
hey
not sure how that cryno thing works but i do know that metal to normalise ie releave all the stress out of it has to be heated up to near melting point.
as this lets all the molucies move freely and not be forced anywhere then when its cooled off they become locked in place and forging steel is just like geting a hammer and belting a conrod out of a lump of steel so the moliclues are more compacted and arnt cut like a machined peice.
iam no expert on it but thats my take on it so i dont know how frezzing it whould work.
mark
not sure how that cryno thing works but i do know that metal to normalise ie releave all the stress out of it has to be heated up to near melting point.
as this lets all the molucies move freely and not be forced anywhere then when its cooled off they become locked in place and forging steel is just like geting a hammer and belting a conrod out of a lump of steel so the moliclues are more compacted and arnt cut like a machined peice.
iam no expert on it but thats my take on it so i dont know how frezzing it whould work.
mark
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I'm beginnign to undrestand now . . . you have to frezz the molucies and moliclues to releave thym . . . thnaks, Mark!!!
(Why does Australian look like Welsh? Where's Rich? He'll have an answer!)
(Why does Australian look like Welsh? Where's Rich? He'll have an answer!)
hey
i think i jsut wored out sorta what it does.
to heat treat metal you must heat it up then cool it at differnt rates the faster its cooled the harder it is but also the more brittle ie why you dont use unbrakeo bolts for conod bolts heads etc cause the more they flex ie heat up stretch contract they fracture and brake where using ay a grade 8 wont brake with out warning liek an unbrakeo.
k now where iam going is instead of heating it up to near melting for say 8 hours they frezze it down as if the part had just come out of the oven locking the moliclues even tighter in place and making surfaces even harder etc etc.
i dont know if iam completely right or even remotely but that seems the most logical way to me but iam not metalerguest (hell i cant even spell it) so correct me if iam wrong
mark
i think i jsut wored out sorta what it does.
to heat treat metal you must heat it up then cool it at differnt rates the faster its cooled the harder it is but also the more brittle ie why you dont use unbrakeo bolts for conod bolts heads etc cause the more they flex ie heat up stretch contract they fracture and brake where using ay a grade 8 wont brake with out warning liek an unbrakeo.
k now where iam going is instead of heating it up to near melting for say 8 hours they frezze it down as if the part had just come out of the oven locking the moliclues even tighter in place and making surfaces even harder etc etc.
i dont know if iam completely right or even remotely but that seems the most logical way to me but iam not metalerguest (hell i cant even spell it) so correct me if iam wrong
mark
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