HEY! How about a Pony 1100 Group Buy???

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On many car forums, members will get together for a "group buy" of an new and interesting item. I've used these group buys to get a Steeroids rack & pinion system for my '79 Corvette, and clear headlights for my Mercedes SLK. So lets just say I'm not blowing smoke here...

That said, how about a group buy for the new Pony 1100 carb? Lets say that at least 10 of us committed to buy the carb from Classic Inlines. What sort of discount could we get on them? And/or a deal on shipping costs

Yes, this is a double-dare. First off, there is a lot of skepticism about this carb's abilities. And second, there is reluctance due to its relatively high price. But...skeptics make the best salespersons if they are won over by the product.

So...to Pony Carbs and Classic Inlines on one side, and Fordsix.com members on the other side, I offer a challenge. If they offer a discount, how many of us will pony up the cash (pun intended) and buy this new product. Lets see who's willing to put their money where their mouth is!!! :nod:
 
If I needed a carb right now, I would try one. I would like to install one and dial it in. I just don't need a carb right now.
 
alright, I'll bite. I'm after better mpg and even a few mpgs better will eventually pay for itself. Better the discount, the sooner it will pay for itself. Count me in.
 
There are group buys on the VW forums all the time, its a great idea. If I wanted a Pony Carb and had the cash I'd be all over this. :wink:
 
There was a dare for these on a tri-power somewhere... It would have to be a decent discount. For the price of 3 of these things that would be a pretty good down payment towards an aluminum head. Bang for the buck... 3 new 1100s on old head or half way to premium setup for our motors...

If there's enough intrest, I'm down for 3. Got to sell the '66 first though 'cause I just bought a real nice '67.
 
I'm definitely interested. How do these things generally work (eg get 10 people together and they all make their payments direct to pony within certain time frame and they ship to idvidual addresses)? Pardon my ingnorance on the forum group buy deal.

What kind of break do you think we might be looking at, 10%, 20-25%?

-Robert
 
There's three parameters you guys need to consider.

Firstly a group buy through here, might be challenging any cooperative arrangements Mike is hoping to set up with Pony - better ask him. Then there's the requirement that everyone would be buying exactly the same thing (normally an underpinning aspect of a group buy). Finally, what if Pony themselves are not willing to be party to an arrangement like this?
 
addo":3j179xmc said:
Firstly a group buy through here, might be challenging any cooperative arrangements Mike is hoping to set up with Pony - better ask him. Then there's the requirement that everyone would be buying exactly the same thing (normally an underpinning aspect of a group buy). Finally, what if Pony themselves are not willing to be party to an arrangement like this?
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First, it was necessary to gauge interest. No point in making arrangements only to find that 1 or 2 folks would make a purchase. At this point, I'd say we're close to making a proposal, but not close enough...

With regards to who would be buying what -- and how -- that's a relatively minor issue that's easy to solve.
 
What is suppose to be the big advantage of this new carb?I just put in a 2 barrel but might bite if I knew why this carb is better.

SteveStang
 
Talk of a group buy seems premature when no one on here has reported real world experience.

Also, Pony Carbs doesn't recommend the new 1100 carb for late model heads like my D3.
 
With Mike's test of these, that's all the real world experience we may need.
Remember, the test results were not just good, they were amazing. People were dumbfounded at the results, even Pony Carbs! It was almost unexplainable.
If the carb performs near this level of results, we'll be doing great. Granted, I'm very anxious to have one of us install and report back.

Pony, how about it? Help us get started...
 
Dyno results aren't real world, if they were then people would race their dyno sheets ande you would get EPA milage.

I do agree the dyno results were amazing, almost too good to be true.

I still say there's a lot of excitement about a $400 one barrel and no one on this board is driving around with one. Also, one might think that there's a reasonable amount of vendor support (from Pony) for that kind of money, I haven't seen anyone on this board rave about that either.
 
Putting the Pony carb on a mild street engine with an aluminum head and getting dyno numbers does not prove anything with this carb.

No other one barrel carb was used on the same motor. How do you know it will be an improvement over an standard 1100 or 1101 or even a 1940.

One of those carbs may have made more or close to as much power as the pony did.

I'm a mechanical engineer, I've written many test plans, if I tried to use MRaley's dyno runs as a test plan to prove anything I would be laughed out of the room.

I'm not trying to slam Mike or Pony I'm just saying the test did nothing to prove their carb is better than any other carb.

I am very wary of a vendor or their distributors claims but then that's just me. If I believed every one of the claims for increased horsepower I would put an electrical supercharger and blow it thru one of those tornado intakes and make a dragster out of my car for only a few dollars.


I do believe the test has proven Mike's aluminum head to be superior to the log head but other than that......

I think a properly tuned Weber 32/36 would be an excellent economizer, in fact it's what I run, well I actually run the H/W 5200 but it's essentially the same carb. I can't prove that it's better than a Pony carb but they haven't proved theirs is better than mine either.


Bob
 
Let's not get started on the merits (or lack thereof) on this carb!

The idea is to find 10 people who are willing to try it in the real world, given a discount. What they say will be 10 times more meaningful than these endless armchair debates.

If you want one, please let us know. If you want to debate, start your own thread.

Thank you.
 
Typically a group buy is initiated by a vendor who has previously arranged a pricing schedule with the supplier.

I participate in these frequently, and have yet to participate in one that was initiated by a potential customer without any previous discussion with the supplier.

I would contact Pony first, otherwise you might just be wasting your time.
 
Bort62":5q0reuav said:
Typically a group buy is initiated by a vendor who has previously arranged a pricing schedule with the supplier.
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I give up. Everyone has plenty of advice around here, and very few are putting their money where their mouths are.

FWIW: I've done group buys using this method before. It can and does work.

Moderators, you may lock this thread... :bang:
 
This is a good idea for those in the market for a new carb.
PM mike (classic inlines). he's the one to talk to.
He might be able to come up with a "Sale" price. if the volume is there. :idea:
 
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