lpi?

[Anonymous]

they did offred me a complete lpi system for 100€ with 5 stage pump in tank and 6 injectors !!
how would this be for a nice turbo setup ?
btw running on lpg is verry cheap here in holland , only tax is much , but driving a car older then 25 years whe dont have to pay tax !! so would be verry interesting for me , i ove turbo and lpi ,

 

[rbohm]

8) that would be a great way to go with a turbo. remember that lpg has an octane rating of 105. the worst part is mounting the fuel tank.

 

[Anonymous]

You don't want it!!!

You want to buy if for your friend 54Ford, who will happily pay all your costs. He loves turbos and LPI and you want him to have it. You are getting sleepy now, and when you wake up you will not remember anything....

SNAP!!!

Just kidding. Buy it, bro!

 

[Anonymous]

Is there a website that I could see the LPI system?

It sure sounds like a GREAT idea!

John

 

[xctasy]

Harrie.

1.The system your using, is it the Italian BRC set-up? The Dutch Landi-Hartog company also has some enormous talent in the field of propane systems. Go for it!

2.There is no Liquid Fuel Injection as such that I know of.Love to know details!

3.Discokin6 posted the Liquip LPI set up about 4 months ago, dating from an Australian state funded Bioquip project of 1996. Never got off the ground due to freezup of the injector nozzle.

4. Since 1997, BRC have made a port gas injection EFI system for Propane, but I can't get a full technical link on it just yet. You have to be an auto fitter to get it.

Here is the link on it.http://www.brc.it/fi/default.taf?lang=en


5. Impco and BRC are working on it for Natural Gas, which will be the Next Big thing for the USA, as you guys have Daimler Chrysler working on that. The last Chrylser Charger 500 show car was fuel on gasoeous methane, a safer fuel than LPG. Compressed Natural gas has a 130 octane ratio, and new tanks are shaped like convetional gasoline tanks, not the awefull space wasting circular affairs that plague LP gas and earlier CN gas set-ups.


6.LPG's only nasty point is that it sinks when vented to the atmosphere. It is safe, but you can't travel through the channel tunnel with a car so equiped yet. It is much safer than gasoline/petrol.


7. As part of my Twinductionâ„¢ 144-250 port EFI system, I will have details soon. The existing log head will take some port injection bosses if its angle cut on both sides, retaining the existing carb mount in the centre. Its just a simple engineering issue to sort it. The brains are needed for the electronics. You can make a set of stainless stub-stacks, and have the ancient log suck some big time air with 59,6 cm2 (9.2 sq inches) of port area, enough for 225 PS (hp net) easily naturally aspirated with no problems.

The original link is http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10024&highlight=

In response to some guys doing 2V Fords, Mark P lamented the difficulty doing the same thing with his Log headed ride

http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10653

I've been working on the HPPhoto links to my pencil drawings which show the general idea.

 

[Anonymous]

http://www.lucardielpg.nl/fotopagina.htm

there is a special market place on internet for selling stuf in holland ,there are 4 people selling there lpi system price from 100 to 400 €

i ,m not realy a specialist with lpi , but i understand that it got injectors for setting up to a intake , i already did buy me the setup , i can pick it up saterday !!! dont now yet how to ad the injectors , but i now for sure i gone run lpi/g with a turbo ,and with a 100 liter tank !!! would be verry cheap and good driving for me , btw lots of lpg stations here to fill the tank !

 

[Anonymous]

This gas injection system sounds very interesting.. Have you got any more specifics on the different 'stages' they offer? Any word on the type of computer/software they use (IE inhouse dyno tuned, fixed state, or user-tunable?).. and lastly, is it really a gas injection system? or is it liquid gas injection?

This sounds like an evolution of the Liquiphase system.. If it is, I'd like to get my hands on it.. 25-28 litres/100km (city) on a dual-fuel propane setup is pretty awful, I'd like to think that a computer controlled fuel/ignition system would be able to reduce that by about a quarter..

 

[xctasy]

Yeah, shoving gas through a stock ADM 34 venturi system is nasty for l/100 km. Mine was the 20% better after going dedicated. I assume your on a Landi Hartog system, disco'?

There is virtually no space from the amos ring to the carb, so its restricted both ways. Venturi screws up gas flow, mixer screws up air flow on gasoline. With the Impco adaptor, its slightly better, but then has problems with poor response cause of the long inlet tract.

And you know all about the EFI/Impco set-up. A rocket ship when its working, an air vane meter 'grenade-launcher' when it lean backfires on over run.

Roll on modern Liquid EFI. I'm with you Disco'

Then we can boost the crap out off it, and take on a duel for Masters of the Universe...

 

[twentyover]

I believe that Scott Adler Motorsports is outfitting Ford V-10's for liquid injected lpg. At least that was a project he was working on last year, and displayed a car at the SEMA show

 

[xctasy]

Sounds bang-on. The Impco guys are working on safegaurding the Crown Vicky as a PZEV via methane or propane acoording toone link I saw his morning. Either one is a natural for green energy. Decomposed gas can make biogas, or the rock gas can be used if there is collective will from municipal authorities. But its got to show a profit, or count as brownie points to the Eurpoeans, who think North America and Australia are lighting 'farts' when they should be burning methane...


Harrie, we want to know what you've got, man. You da man!

 

[Anonymous]

after talking to a friend of my ,,,for adding lpi , he told me he got a complete lpg instalation ad home .if i want it i must pick it up , for free !!! so i did that , got now a complete lpg setup , full complete with 80 liter lpg tank !!
i,m just into learning how lpg ore lpi works . i got a strange venturie with this 1 , question is , how to ad this 1?

btw the other 1 is a real lpi system , did ask him to send some pic , from the injectors and comp , and the type lpi !! so i,m waiting for a mail , and wil post the stuf here when i got it !! it come,s with 4 injectors he told me , was from a 4 cyl car .

and i did see by a gas station in germany a aard gas filling station for cars driving on aard gas , the same gas you use in the kitchen !! there are servel cars in front for showing how it works , wil try to make some detaild pic of it !!!

ahahahah next time filling the gas tank ad home from a tapped gas line from the kitchen !!!!

 

[Anonymous]

The strange device you've posted is the mixer - the flexible braided steel line goes from the LPG converter, and into the brass neck on the mixer. This type of mixer looks as though it'll sit somewhere in an airfilter or an intake duct, or something like that.. Doesnt look like it goes into a carbeurettor or throttlebody, though..

aard gas, is that like compressed natural gas?

 

[xctasy]

I've seen that before. A so-called Amos ring, or anular gas mixer hat. It is for a Taunus Weber 32/36 or Fiat 131 32 ADM carb?


These are not wonderfull for perfromance, but good for dual fuel (gasoline and propane/natural gas).