All Small Six serpentine belt conversions?

[powerband]

... very interested in fitting a Serpentine balancer to a 250 directly. Serpentine drive can open up other avenues for performance.



5.0 pulley on 250 balancer bolt-on accessory drive pulley (PS ?)

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have fun

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[chad]

there isa thread of how one wuz done. Nice pic, lill component info. Ck
the search function
tech Archive
might havea pic. I remember X in on some comments (10 yrs ago? Ho boy, I'm pretty
bad w/"the past" ever since bout age 20 - 50, 55 yrs now).

 

[comet6]

Got more parts to try. I ordered the 96 model 300 damper from Ford. It came with the 3 point reluctor. I removed it, to be replaced with a 36-1 ford edis. Damper fits as delivered. NO mods. The aforementioned ranger wp pulley lines up near perfect. It needs a 1/16" shim behind it. A standard clutch fan will clear damper. Now on to accessories.

 

[chad]

I believe they had one idler
and
some trick head ( not the
CI/VI tho) extra shive for
SC or sompin...

 

[Engine Fan]

Got more parts to try. I ordered the 96 model 300 damper from Ford. It came with the 3 point reluctor. I removed it, to be replaced with a 36-1 ford edis. Damper fits as delivered. NO mods. The aforementioned ranger wp pulley lines up near perfect. It needs a 1/16" shim behind it. A standard clutch fan will clear damper. Now on to accessories.View attachment 15226View attachment 15227

Was the 36-1 trigger wheel off of a 3.8/4.2 v6?
It bolts right up?

 

[Frank]

NICE! Are the pullys aligned perfectly? Probably the pic angle, they look off. Serp belts are sensitive to alignment. Belt noise and longevity are at stake.

 

[comet6]

NICE! Are the pullys aligned perfectly? Probably the pic angle, they look off. Serp belts are sensitive to alignment. Belt noise and longevity are at stake.

That is mostly camera angle. Here is a straight edge showing alignment. Wp gasket thickness variations could slightly affect this too. I'll buy a shim kit at final assembly.

 

[comet6]

Was the 36-1 trigger wheel off of a 3.8/4.2 v6?
It bolts right up?

I haven't found a trigger wheel that bolts up. The 3 point wheel is 3 bolts, and a 3.8 36-1 is 4 bolt. The 2.3 and 5.0 wheels are pressed on damper. I removed a 5.0 wheel and made a spacer fit my 460 spacer. I'll probably trim 3 point wheel diameter off and graft on the 5.0 wheel.

 

[comet6]

I haven't found a trigger wheel that bolts up. The 3 point wheel is 3 bolts, and a 3.8 36-1 is 4 bolt. The 2.3 and 5.0 wheels are pressed on damper. I removed a 5.0 wheel and made a spacer fit my 460 spacer. I'll probably trim 3 point wheel diameter off and graft on the 5.0 wheel.

So a small update. I found this trigger wheel from 64bit_tuning_concepts. Still working in serpentine setup, but getting close.

 

[comet6]

Slowly chipping away at this. I don't have edis harness yet. I did swap over and running the serpentine setup as mentioned. I had to route it different that planned right now. I'll need a different tensioner puller or something. The 3g conversion is impressive. With dual fans, high beams, and blower running it holds 13.7v at idle.

I ended up shimming balancer out .090". Ranger wp pulley .125". and alt/compressor bracket forward .675"

 

[Jmustang_65]

Thanks for the post. Do you have an overall picture with everything installed?

 

[comet6]

Thanks for the post. Do you have an overall picture with everything installed?

not right now. I used that engine to mock up. It's now on the car. I'll try to get pics. Harder to see because I have electric fans too. The routing now goes from damper to Alt, then tensioner and over wp and back to damper. The belt wouldn't route behind tensioner pulley as shown. I'll reroute once I add compressor

 

[chad]

We had 1 on here done great. I think it was on the alloy head, may B not w/the EDIT tho.

How Many Shives Do U Want to have on the motor? Minimum? 3, 4?

I seek to go the other direction adding sno plow, air compressor, PS pump...
(7 or 8?)

 

[Garyj4055]

Hi guys ,I know this is old thread but did the serpentine belt configuration get finally installed and was it on a 200?
I'm hoping to do same on my 60 ranchero.
I have ac fitted and it eats v belts.

 

[comet6]

Hi guys ,I know this is old thread but did the serpentine belt configuration get finally installed and was it on a 200?
I'm hoping to do same on my 60 ranchero.
I have ac fitted and it eats v belts.

I have 9k miles on same belt so far. No ac compressor yet, but runs 3g alternator.This is a 250.

 

[chad]

never happened w/o a pic~

 

[DON]

not right now. I used that engine to mock up. It's now on the car. I'll try to get pics. Harder to see because I have electric fans too. The routing now goes from damper to Alt, then tensioner and over wp and back to damper. The belt wouldn't route behind tensioner pulley as shown. I'll reroute once I add compressor

I am interested in the alt mount in the photo. I know it is for the 250 engine, what year? And any ideas on what vehicles would have the same mount? I want to go serpentine on my 200

 

[chad]

I think there’s a pic of that (probably a 200 not the 250, but no matter) in the tech
arcive (above on this page). May B w/the alloy head too but again, matters less. May
B a black block. Is this where that is? Shows full front face. I think one idler? (talkin 2 myself

 

[DON]

Pics are good, but if you don’t know what parts are used, not much help

 

[chad]

they could B IDed by any 1 from lookin in the pic.
I just cant pull up that ‘black motor’ w/the alloy head
for you, sorry. I went to it manya X due to front dress
design/mock ups for my own (PS pump, sno plow pump,
Dampner, H2O, cam, alternator/mig, an ol a/c compressor for
‘on board air’ or air compressor pump) ie 7 shives... That full list
has been abandoned along w/'long tube header' as I will not collect
install anything else on this project rig. Will finish as is, just to get done...