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I'm 20 years old, and am the fortunate owner of a beautiful '68 mustang 200cid that desperately needs to be rebuilt, and updated. i just finished the transmission and am ready to rebuild the engine. but i really dont know where to begin. i am set on a clifford header and weber 2bbl carb but aside from that what else do i need? i am on a real tight budget and cant afford much but need some help on what to do. i would like it to have good pick-up and passing power, and also get me around day to day. until i can save up for another car. Someone please help me out, it would be greately appreciated. please feel free to IM, Email, or post. thanks Inliners
 
Nah- u dont need to save up for another car... ;)
Anyway, I was satisfied with my 68's 200. The engine was rebuilt not too long ago, so was the C4 tranny. The 200 is a 78 block with a 66 head and a 78 exhaust manifold, going to a stock 68 exhaust, which terminates at the cherry bomb muffler and the turndown. I run a holley-rebuild of an Autolite 1100 1bbl carb. I also have the pertronix setup- Flamethrower 40,000 volt coil & Ignitor pointless ignition. I stand behind my use of 93 octane fuel as well, with lead substitute, being that I dont have hardened valve seats.
By the way- how much are you looking to spend with your tight budget?
PS- my 68 was my daily driver until it got wrecked

if you wanna take a look at my set up for the 68- http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6813
and http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/ux21/l ... yahoo.com/
good luck on your project!
 
I recently assumed ownership of my ma's '65 with 200 and auto. It was basicly un-modified. The first and best improvement you can make is upgrading the ignition system. The majority of the tuners on this site are useing Pertronix products, and they can be had through mail order from quite a few dif. places. I use mustangs unlimited for many of my needs. They are in connecticut and shipping is :checks: fast for my location. The upgrade is changing the points module in you distributer to a point-less one, the Pertronix Ignitor. I also upgraded the coil to the flamethrower unit . It produces a much higher voltage across the sparkplug gap. Also new spark plugs, and different gaps can be set to take full advantage of the increased vaoltage, and everyone here can advise you on that subject.

Also check to be sure that your vacum advance is operating. With engine not running. :lol: Take off the distributer cap, pull the end of the rubber hose that connnects the dist. to the carb , off the carb. Then suck on the hose and observe the open dist. If your just sucking air and the mechanism in the dist is not moving (advancing). You will need to pick-up a new vacum control. That is the little canister connected to the distributer. $10 for mine @ local auto parts place.

:roll: :roll: :roll: I mention the vacum advance because two of my vehicles, the mustang and a '71 F250, had vac. advances that were not functioning. They are from arizona and califonia. That dry air is good for preserving metal but not the little rubber diaphragm in the vacum control module.

The improvement in performance and reliability from these minor but necasary enhancements are a great initial investment. The total cost in parts: Pertronix ignitor & flamethrower, vacum control and plugs, less than $100.

The header you mentioned will look cool and make you feel good, but that mod alone will not give you the improvement your looking for.

Happy Cruising and welcome to the club of tweekers and tuners,

ODean
 
if you want to save money, don't go with Clifford, go with AzCoupe's stuff, better prices, plus better quality (and you get to save kittens), check his site www.fordsixparts.com
for ignition, you don't need to go to Petronix, look to get a Duraspark II system
i would also point out that if you are doing a rebuild, before you even take it out it would be a good idea to get a Chilton's manual (or some other similar manual), and the Ford Falcon Six Cylinder Performance Handbook is the book to buy if you are building a performance machine, or even if you just want a little bit more power, it's still a good buy

any other questions you have, feel free to ask them
evan
 
Get an ignition upgrade first. It will be the best improvement you can make for a real cheap price. Pertronix plus a Flamethrower coil, $120 or so, and you will get a nice boost in drivability and power. It will really smooth out the car.

After that, see where you are with money. A 2V carb and headers will help, but the headers adapted to a dual out exhaust will get expensive.

Slade
 
do the wires and plugs too...get platinums and some 8mm wires maybe...makes you feel powerful too...looking cool is half the fun!

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I got the chrome coli too...45,000 watts.
 
I would rebuild with some tempo flat-tops and look for a deal ona cam. get a duraspark II setup and that would set you up nicely. see if you can find a 5200 cheap and do a home built adaptor.

nick
 
Hey Chaz,
45000 watts translates to 3750 amps at 12 volts. That would require more than 8mm wires to carry so much current :wink: (AMPS x VOLTS= WATTS)
Lazy JW
 
thank you all so much for the info. you have no idea how much i appreciate it. i'm thinking i'll be able to spend between $1000-$1500 on everything, and still have money for books in the fall. would hardened valve seats make a huge difference? if so whats required for that. i've also seen "ferrea" oversized valves advertised at the clifford website and pistons. are those good ideas? also another question i had was is a machine shop going to charge an arm and a leg if any work is needed on the block? please keep the feedback coming i'm gonna be starting in a week. again thank you all for the help

Scott
 
When you start talking about head work, generally you are talking about getting a rebuild, which is about $200-300 depending on where you live. If you engine has been rebuilt in the last 10 years, chances are that it already has hardened seat valve. I personally wouldn't worry about that first. Do it later. With $1000-$1500 bucks, here is what I'd do:

1) Pertronix ignition and flamethrower coil: $140
2) a) Holley 2V carb: $50 (from ebay or the such) + $50 adaptor

or

b)Pony Carbs rebuild 1100 (they rebuild them and remove some of the problems): $190 I'm currently running aPony Carbs rebuilt 1100. Rans beautifully. no flat spots, no hesitation...great investment.

3) Exhaust Port Divider : $20, plus some real high temp epoxy (not JB Weld or other Autozone type epoxy, real 2000* epoxy : www.cotronics.com stuff)

4) Headers and exhaust work: $300-800. This really varies depending oh how much you get. Standards headers are around $250. If you want dual exhaust, about $300 for the system, plus about $100 for connection the headers to the dual exhaust (they don't make dual exhaust specifically for 6 cylinder mustangs). Or you can go with single out or Y pipe 6-2 headers and just connect that to your existing single exhaust system.

5) Now you have a solid running, peppier car. Depending on what you did with the exhaust, you may have around $500-$800 left. If you have a manual tranny, consider a T-5 transmission swap. I got my T5 for $250, $200 for adaptor kit, $150 for miscellanous parts, and $100 for drive shaft modifications. The T5 will really wake up the car. If you have an Automatic, you can still do a T5 swap, it's just more involved.

6) Another fairly cheap, though more work intensive way to get some more power, new Cam. it can be done with the engine in the car, though it does involve removing some of the front of the car. Typical new cam kit (with springs, lifters, etc) goes for around $200 and will also help your car gain some umph.

That's basically what I did with my car in the first yet, and I'll tell you something, the car is much more alive then it used to be. Mainly from the combination of the cam and T5 tranny. The pertronix was the first mod I did and the one I'm still the most happy with. Really smooths the car out and actually gets better mileage.

Basically, my list goes from simplist to hardest

Slade
 
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